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Sunderland fans seem impressed with Callum Doyle after his first outing in a friendly win over Hearts today

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'Future England star': Sunderland fans in awe of Manchester City loanee's Saturday display

Manchester City loaned Callum Doyle to Sunderland on Friday, by Saturday, the Citizens academy ace was already a fan favourite at the Stadium of Light.
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Sunderland fans are all saying the same thing about Manchester City loanee after Hearts victory

Sunderland put in an impressive performance at Hearts in their latest pre-season outing.
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LongsightM13 said:
Sunderland fans seem impressed with Callum Doyle after his first outing in a friendly win over Hearts today

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'Future England star': Sunderland fans in awe of Manchester City loanee's Saturday display

Manchester City loaned Callum Doyle to Sunderland on Friday, by Saturday, the Citizens academy ace was already a fan favourite at the Stadium of Light.
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Sunderland fans are all saying the same thing about Manchester City loanee after Hearts victory

Sunderland put in an impressive performance at Hearts in their latest pre-season outing.
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Probably a silly question....is he related to Tommy?
 
LongsightM13 said:
Swansea, Fulham and Blackburn play the best football of this lot so would probably be the best destination for him. Forget the long ball outfits like Boro and Cardiff

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Sources: Man City weigh up midfielder decision with Sheffield United, West Brom, QPR and Middlesbrough amongst 10 club pursuit

Sheffield United, West Brom and Fulham are amongst 10 Championship clubs interested in a loan move for Tommy Doyle this summer as Manchester City weigh up the best destination for their young midfielder, a source has exclusively revealed to Football League World.
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I agree that traditionally Swansea have played possession-based football.
However, was very disappointed with the most recent FA Cup tie away to them.
Their style of football seemed to have gone backwards and there were a few nasty, late challenges on City players.
Steve Cooper and his managerial have many detractors due to their constant moaning at the 4th official and harassing referees.
Although I am a Cardiff fan (don't send any City young players to CCFC, despite Mick Mac being the manager), I have always admired Swansea.
Think Cooper will leave very soon anyway (he used to be the England U'17's manager and worked at Liverpool), so will be at a bigger club soon)...
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
I agree that traditionally Swansea have played possession-based football.
However, was very disappointed with the most recent FA Cup tie away to them.
Their style of football seemed to have gone backwards and there were a few nasty, late challenges on City players.
Steve Cooper and his managerial have many detractors due to their constant moaning at the 4th official and harassing referees.
Although I am a Cardiff fan (don't send any City young players to CCFC, despite Mick Mac being the manager), I have always admired Swansea.
Think Cooper will leave very soon anyway (he used to be the England U'17's manager and worked at Liverpool), so will be at a bigger club soon)...
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Yeah they were surprisingly thuggish in that cup tie tbf, there was a shocking late tackle on Rodri iirc
I could see Cooper being a similar type to Potter
 
LongsightM13 said:
Yeah they were surprisingly thuggish in that cup tie tbf, there was a shocking late tackle on Rodri iirc
I could see Cooper being a similar type to Potter
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As I said previously, I admire Swansea very much. Potter did well at the Swans too, getting his move to bigger and better things at Brighton.
However, I think Potter's style of football is light years ahead of where Swansea current are.
Brighton could do very well next season if they can find an excellent striker.
Perhaps Brighton could be a loan-club to test a highly-rated youngster (Palmer, Doyle or McAtee) ?
 
eversince 76 said:
Agree. Unless the management are convinced Delap needs 2 more years to develop and become our main striker.

Plus we stop Chelsea strengthen as I’m sure they will definitely be challenging for the title again.

Plus why grant Spurs 150MILL while Dortmund plays in another league. Not that I expect Spurs to wisely spent as long as Levy is pulling all the strings.

Plus it might give Dortmund an outside change to challenge Bayern if they spend well. And be sure Bayern will be after Haaland next year. Probably tapping him up before that.
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I can't see how Delap will make it here because Guardiola has no faith in youth. He'll probably end up on loan and then we'll accept a paltry 11M like we did for Harrison.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
I can't see how Delap will make it here because Guardiola has no faith in youth. He'll probably end up on loan and then we'll accept a paltry 11M like we did for Harrison.
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We don't know how he'll turn out to be in a couple years, needs to up a few levels. Also, no club winning silverware has 'faith in youth' because it can only carry you so far. Quality and experience wins you titles. We have Foden and maybe another couple might come through the ranks if good enough, Chelsea have Mount and Reece James, the other two red shite have a couple each. If you suddenly expect kids to be given gametime just so fans believe there's trust in youth that's just silly. You have to be crazy good to start in these teams
 
blkswn said:
We don't know how he'll turn out to be in a couple years, needs to up a few levels. Also, no club winning silverware has 'faith in youth' because it can only carry you so far. Quality and experience wins you titles. We have Foden and maybe another couple might come through the ranks if good enough, Chelsea have Mount and Reece James, the other two red shite have a couple each. If you suddenly expect kids to be given gametime just so fans believe there's trust in youth that's just silly. You have to be crazy good to start in these teams
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You are Alan Hanson and I claim my £5.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Foden is the only homegrown academy player that's made it since our academy opened in late 2013. That's pretty piss poor i think.
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That's because with the sole exception of Sancho, there isn't a single player who was actually good enough. Foden on the other hand made the break through because he is good enough, and if Delap is he'll get his chance. If he isn't, like you said he'll get sold.

I don't think you we can go into the season relying on Delap, and I don't think there's a crystal ball that we can chart his development in. We just have to wait and see.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Foden is the only homegrown academy player that's made it since our academy opened in late 2013. That's pretty piss poor i think.
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Loads have 'made it' just not with us. In the mean time we have sold nearly 180m worth of talent which has helped pay for the likes of Diaz, Mahrez etc. Far from piss poor..
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Foden is the only homegrown academy player that's made it since our academy opened in late 2013. That's pretty piss poor i think.
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OMG what did you expect over night success ? sorry youth football does not work like that
unless your utd and sign all the young 16 years olds and say they are home grown

manchester city will start to bear fruit from the youth system and this season 2 or 3 are ready for the next level and put into the first team squad. cole palmer looks a player
 
BillyShears said:
That's because with the sole exception of Sancho, there isn't a single player who was actually good enough. Foden on the other hand made the break through because he is good enough, and if Delap is he'll get his chance. If he isn't, like you said he'll get sold.

I don't think you we can go into the season relying on Delap, and I don't think there's a crystal ball that we can chart his development in. We just have to wait and see.
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Isn’t the feeling that Delap, Palmer and Lavia have bigger chances than any academy player since Foden?
 
BillyShears said:
That's because with the sole exception of Sancho, there isn't a single player who was actually good enough. Foden on the other hand made the break through because he is good enough, and if Delap is he'll get his chance. If he isn't, like you said he'll get sold.

I don't think you we can go into the season relying on Delap, and I don't think there's a crystal ball that we can chart his development in. We just have to wait and see.
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We won't know how good they are without them getting on the pitch in meaningful games. Ok, some of our youngsters are now getting in the bench but not getting any(or enough) time to shine. There's been plenty of games we've been at least two goals ahead but Guardiola has not brought any kids on. Delap scored on his debut and been cast aside and not played since. The Burton cup game, Pep played Doyle and T-HB and (iirc) not played them since either. It's only a matter of time before they get disillusioned and want out of the club if they cannot break through.
 
ancoats said:
OMG what did you expect over night success ? sorry youth football does not work like that
unless your utd and sign all the young 16 years olds and say they are home grown

manchester city will start to bear fruit from the youth system and this season 2 or 3 are ready for the next level and put into the first team squad. cole palmer looks a player
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No i don't expect overnight success but the academy (like i say) has been open going on 8 years! The rags have had success by successfully integrating youth into the first team and there's no excuses not to give our best kids a chance IMO.
 
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