Political relations between UK-EU

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Vic said:
But the pinging seems more of a problem now in all sectors, so either
(a) it was less noticeable as less was happening in lockdown (places closed, fewer trains / buses) and
more people are about
(b) more people have the app
(c) more people who are infected are still going out
(d) more people are infected than the official stats
(e) the £37bn test and trace programme wasn't very good

But as lorry drivers don't have workplaces, and work alone, they were less at risk of transmission so yes it's a Brexit issue
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Agreed. I think I’m just wary of falling into the trap of saying everything is the fault of Brexit. Separating Brexit from the pandemic is tricky.

Centre For European Reform have issued their calculation of lost trade which amounts to £18 billion since the 2016 vote.
 
BobKowalski said:
Brexit has weakened the supply chains at exactly the wrong moment, but it suits the narrative to pin the blame entirely on an App that is doing what it is designed to do.

Brexit requires an extraordinary amount of effort in proving 2+2=5. On one hand we pump up ’free trade deals’ and how we are ‘reducing trade barriers’ while simultaneously exiting from a trade arrangement which is specifically designed to reduce and eliminate trade barriers and then complain that the EU is putting up trade barriers.

The doublethink involved must be exhausting, except we have conditioned ourselves to believe otherwise and we can no longer see or recognise objective truth.
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Almost ebwey front page today was pingdemic and a pic of empty shelves.
They think we are fucking stupid
 
as reported over the weekend Brussels are off on their hols and aren't bothering themselves with Brexit for now. Gonna be interesting to see Johnson trying to argue a culture war down a phone that no-one is answering. They will just let him fester and hang out to dry - as things hopefully progress better than they are with Covid but supply chain difficulties don't get better and shelves remain empty who will he blame it all on then?

www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit: No breakthrough on NI protocol after PM speaks to EU chief

Boris Johnson speaks to EU chief Ursula von der Leyen about the UK's demand to rework the Brexit deal.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Stock up now on basil.

We can't import basil seed, so won't be able to grow any in the UK.
 
Vic said:
For the sake of my health, I usually avoid the Express, but here's one story that seems to have got past the "all the EU's fault" outrageatron machine.

www.express.co.uk

'Is it too much to expect UK to stick to deal?' Germany lashes out

GERMANY lashed out against the UK over Lord Frost's demands to change the Northern Ireland Protocol in the Brexit deal.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
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This off CNNs main page. Considering the respect the US usually (used to) holds for the UK, this is pretty gobsmacking stuff
https://us.cnn.com/2021/07/24/business/brexit-deal-northern-ireland-gbr-intl-cmd/index.html
 
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