Harry Kane

Damocles said:
Yeah it's a good strategy and apparently had a German core at Bayern and a Spanish one at Barca. Can see the logic in him trying to build an English core to us for his next team.
Never remembered to ask, what did you think of Pep talking about Kane in the press conference? Think he'll start doing that now or is it a one off?
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In general Pep's comments were remarkably open. Saying Bernardo wants to leave plus two or three others. The Kane stuff just cemented that he is absolutely desperate for him and I think they know a deal can be done. Ultimately if Harry Kane wasn't for sale as media keep peddling, City would've moved on a long time ago. Pep knows, and the club know, there's a price, and I suspect if push comes to shove they'll go to the price.

It is rare that we're in for such high profile players so it feels like unique circumstances with Kane. Personally I'd love to add Saka and Bellingham next summer but that's fantasy football talk haha.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Right now I don’t agree Haaland is better than Kane.

I don’t trust what I see as I don’t see enough so I look at the data the same as City will do as part of their analysis.

One of the most important stats is the difference between Actual Goals and Expected Goals. Right now..

1. Messi
2. Kane

Also Kane creates more than Haaland and fits how we play better which is why Pep prefers him for City.

I think Haaland will be a better Striker than Kane ever was in the future but that is a guess and City want the best now while Pep is still here.

Then we get to the fact that Haaland isn’t going anywhere this window and anyone that tries will fall foul of FFP. I can see a bidding war next year for both fee and wages despite the buyout clause.His agent will insist on another buy out clause so he can repeat the same trick over and over. His agent and his father also want to get paid huge bucks over and over too.

All in all Haaland comes with loads of baggage. To contradict myself in terms of not believing what I see I think Haaland looks a generational talent and I’d love to see him here but when we played Dortmund he hardly touched the ball and it was Bellingham that shone.

Everything taken into consideration right now and living in the real World Kane is a better bet than Haaland. Not as exciting true but still better.
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Good post.
 
HelloCity said:
Maybe the prices of English players will go up even more if they bring in any new rules saying you have to have so many British players in the squad.
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Hence why we were happy to splash big money on Grealish and probably Kane.

The club arn't stupid, changes are on there way with non UK players.
 
blueparrot said:
Inter are desperate for the money and spurs aren’t , Lukaku has been there a year, Kane has been there all his career it isn’t the same not even similar. They aren’t smarter.
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People keep saying Spurs are in a bad financial situation and can’t refuse the money. Lukaku has been at Inter for two, not one year, and reportedly was very happy there, didn’t want to leave and Inter didn’t want to let him go if not the right amount of money. I didn’t say they are smarter, but they handled signing their target in a smarter way. Presented the money required at the right time and will have him sooner. How many times did you read on this thread that the Kane deal would get done before the Euros, and once the Euros started the conversation quickly changed to “right after the Euros”, and now we’re hearing we’re prepared for this to last until the final hours of the transfer window?!
 
Cobwebcat said:
Right now I don’t agree Haaland is better than Kane.

I don’t trust what I see as I don’t see enough so I look at the data the same as City will do as part of their analysis.

One of the most important stats is the difference between Actual Goals and Expected Goals. Right now..

1. Messi
2. Kane

Also Kane creates more than Haaland and fits how we play better which is why Pep prefers him for City.

I think Haaland will be a better Striker than Kane ever was in the future but that is a guess and City want the best now while Pep is still here.

Then we get to the fact that Haaland isn’t going anywhere this window and anyone that tries will fall foul of FFP. I can see a bidding war next year for both fee and wages despite the buyout clause.His agent will insist on another buy out clause so he can repeat the same trick over and over. His agent and his father also want to get paid huge bucks over and over too.

All in all Haaland comes with loads of baggage. To contradict myself in terms of not believing what I see I think Haaland looks a generational talent and I’d love to see him here but when we played Dortmund he hardly touched the ball and it was Bellingham that shone.

Everything taken into consideration right now and, living in the real World, Kane is a better bet than Haaland. Not as exciting true but still better and, if this is also @BillyShears point, then I have to agree with him.
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Not that I disagree, but worth pointing out that Kane's expected assists was far lower than his actual assists last season. He definitely does drop back and is creative, but last year was an anomaly (so far) for assists.
 
Gus Cruz said:
Well he already has won a title last season scoring in the final against a better team. More than Kane. Has also achieved records that are beyond impressive for his age. He isn’t the finished article, but like Mbappe at Monaco, even a fool could see what was going to happen.
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He plays for Dortmund, Kane plays for Spurs. Context also matters. Dortmund are the only team capable of giving Bayern a title challenge, Spurs don't have that luxury, winning a league cup equivalent also doesn't make him better than Kane. He also plays in Bundesliga, league popular for making strikers look way better than they are. Remember Paco Alcacer? Bas Dost? Yeah. He's quality but I'd rather not overrate him just yet. Let him move to one of the big boys and show his worth, then we'll know if he's generational. Casually throwing that is a bit wild.
 
Damocles said:
This is our second year in a row targeting Kane for transfer. If we wanted Haaland then we would have gone for him. We've never gone for him.
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You don’t know that. In fact journalists who people on this forum take as being very well informed said we were. We also were linked with other strikers last summer. It wasn’t jusy Kane. We were linked with Haaland over a year ago already. Think all you want that Kane has been “the one all along”. This isn’t what the evidence shows. I am more willing to buy the theory that he has been more seriously considered this time for “having chosen us” or whatever. That at least make more sense
 
Cobwebcat said:
Right now I don’t agree Haaland is better than Kane.

I don’t trust what I see as I don’t see enough so I look at the data the same as City will do as part of their analysis.

One of the most important stats is the difference between Actual Goals and Expected Goals. Right now..

1. Messi
2. Kane

Also Kane creates more than Haaland and fits how we play better which is why Pep prefers him for City.

I think Haaland will be a better Striker than Kane ever was in the future but that is a guess and City want the best now while Pep is still here.

Then we get to the fact that Haaland isn’t going anywhere this window and anyone that tries will fall foul of FFP. I can see a bidding war next year for both fee and wages despite the buyout clause.His agent will insist on another buy out clause so he can repeat the same trick over and over. His agent and his father also want to get paid huge bucks over and over too.

All in all Haaland comes with loads of baggage. To contradict myself in terms of not believing what I see I think Haaland looks a generational talent and I’d love to see him here but when we played Dortmund he hardly touched the ball and it was Bellingham that shone.

Everything taken into consideration right now and, living in the real World, Kane is a better bet than Haaland. Not as exciting true but still better and, if this is also @BillyShears point, then I have to agree with him.
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Agree with most of this, particularly as Haaland is "ungettable" at the moment. I'm also on record on here saying I personally don't want him because of the baggage (and the fact he's clearly mainly motivated by money).

My main point was it's not "hype" when people hope for Haaland. He's an absolutely incredible player.

Good stats those, although apples to apples comparison is very difficult given they play in different leagues, teams and European competitions. Also things like, Kane is undisputed penalty taker at Spurs, Dortmund appear to share it round from a glance at their stats.

I was probably too strong to say he's "clearly" the better striker but imo he'd score more goals for us, particularly in big games.
 
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