Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)

[Uwe Already]

lol how many of you would go to your work for free...?

if I didn’t need to worry about money, I would. But I’m a foster carer, so its a bit different

 

[Parisian]

Where is Parisian

sure he stated last year they would be in for him but Messi wanted City and Pep

Yeah. It is Messi and it is definitely their kind of fetish. Last year, i wasn't seeing a deal working out due to our poor financial state.

Covid and FFP being relaxed allowed investment this summer.

Qatar saying were always that since they can't get the real Messi, they wanted the new Messi. They felt they achieved that in 2017 but now that the real deal is available, they would always try.

 

[better dead than red]

The French clubs have done better than the Italian sides in Europe in recent years. Look at how many players in the Premier league have come from France and look at what's come from Italy. Theres not much difference in the two leagues.

That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Italians generally don't care to leave Italy. They can play football and make a good living in Serie A.

It is exactly the same as many Germans don't wish to leave Germany or the Bundesliga. They are close to home and play football for great wages.

Both these nationalities are front and center to make their national teams in their home countries, near there families and are comfortable playing a "relatively " high level of football for good money.

Comparing the nationalities coming to England to play doesn't explain the whole situation.

 

[Parisian]

I wonder if Qatar will reduce their funding of PSG when the 2022 World Cup is over.

A possibility but you have to take into account that the contracts they have been signing are running long after the WC. Neymar 2025, Hakimi 2026, Donnarumma 2026, if Mbappé signs too.

There is also the brand new academy center being built for 300 millions.

Now that the club has finally gained a good commercial income that would be a bad timing.

 

[Parisian]

So because they can’t afford him, Barca want to end his career?

They are quite petty.

The last time when we bought Neymar, it was Tebas who was refusing to take the cheque to pay the clause. After that, he waited the very last moment to deliver the transfer papers to french league. Thus, Neymar wasn't able to play 2 or 3 games after his transfer.

 

[mccity]

They are quite petty.

The last time when we bought Neymar, it was Tebas who was refusing to take the cheque to pay the clause. After that, he waited the very last moment to deliver the transfer papers to french league. Thus, Neymar wasn't able to play 2 or 3 games after his transfer.

You missed a real opportunity not paying that release clause in 1 cent coins...

 

[Parisian]

The Villa forum was in meltdown over JG,,imagine the Barca forum !!!

I dont know what to make of him really. Always seemed in some scrape with Barca about money,contracts, getting managers sacked.GOAT..possibly..Ronaldo succeeded in more leagues and internationally,tough call.Not sure at this stage in his career he would have fitted into our team given his playing style and age. Another potential Rodney Marsh situation avoided.

Any way good luck to PSG keeping all those egos in check, and is Poch the man to do it??

I can say that almost no fan of PSG like Pochettino as a coach.

 

[ninjamonkey]

That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Italians generally don't care to leave Italy. They can play football and make a good living in Serie A.

It is exactly the same as many Germans don't wish to leave Germany or the Bundesliga. They are close to home and play football for great wages.

Both these nationalities are front and center to make their national teams in their home countries, near there families and are comfortable playing a "relatively " high level of football for good money.

Comparing the nationalities coming to England to play doesn't explain the whole situation.

I wasn't comparing the nationalities, I was comparing the quality of player coming in from each league regardless of their nationality. It wasn't my only point and wasn't offering anything definitive, simply an example to counter the point made about the Italian league being seen as a test whereas the French league is deemed a farmers league. There's very little difference in quality between the two leagues.

 

[Parisian]

It is complete corrupt bollocks that PSG can pay the fees they did for Neymar and Mbappe, pay them the wages they pay them and now pay Messi that huge some of wages in a tinpot league with literally no TV revenue money!?! Only one man to thank it seems………. How is the corruption charges against this man going on? Swept under the UEFA carpet it seems!

Neymar having renewed his contract has significantly reduced his transfer fee amortization. PSG save up to 35 millions a year.

Reason why renewing Mbappé even with an improved salary was the number 1 task. So far, it is a failure.

 

[Parisian]

Glad we’re staying far away.

pisses me off that we get lumped in with PSG, when we bend over backwards trying to follow the rules and they do whatever they want whenever they want.

You must have missed our windows post summer 2017.

It is finally the first window we can really invest and it makes a world of difference with the business we have been doing these last 4 years.

 

[better dead than red]

I wasn't comparing the nationalities, I was comparing the quality of player coming in from each league regardless of their nationality. It wasn't my only point and wasn't offering anything definitive, simply an example to counter the point made about the Italian league being seen as a test whereas the French league is deemed a farmers league. There's very little difference in quality between the two leagues.

I'm sorry. I didn't see anything other than you saying,

"Look at how many players in the Premier league have come from France and look at what's come from Italy"

How could I not have known you were comparing the quality of player? My mistake?

 

[ninjamonkey]

I'm sorry. I didn't see anything other than you saying,

"Look at how many players in the Premier league have come from France and look at what's come from Italy"

How could I not have known you were comparing the quality of player? My mistake?

In relation to the post I was quoting, I think what I said was fine and made the point I was trying to make adequately.

That point being the standard of the French league isn't dissimilar to the Italian.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

You must have missed our windows post summer 2017.

It is finally the first window we can really invest and it makes a world of difference with the business we have been doing these last 4 years.

I don’t care

 

[ninjamonkey]

I don’t care

He's not wrong though. PSG went big on Neymar and Mbappe and it cost them a couple of windows because of it. They've had to rely largely on freebies and loans as well as trimming the squad last couple of windows to comply with FFP. In fact, we've spent a good chunk more than PSG in total since and including the window they bought Neymar.

This Messi thread has really shown our fans are no better than the rest of the league when it comes to throwing out uninformed crap about FFP. Didn't we just spend about a fortnight laughing at clueless villa fans for doing the same thing many of us are now saying about PSG?

 

[TheThirdDeano]

He's not wrong though. PSG went big on Neymar and Mbappe and it cost them a couple of windows because of it. They've had to rely largely on freebies and loans as well as trimming the squad last couple of windows to comply with FFP. In fact, we've spent a good chunk more than PSG in total since and including the window they bought Neymar.

This Messi thread has really shown our fans are no better than the rest of the league when it comes to throwing out uninformed crap about FFP. Didn't we just spend about a fortnight laughing at clueless villa fans for doing the same thing many of us are now saying about PSG?

Again, I don’t care, psg can fuck off, they are not like us. they have an executive on the Uefa board, they have never been really chased after or prosecuted as we have.
they’re a tool to make us look worse, “clubs like psg and man city” always the way, when it’s them spending a ridiculous amount of money on wages and we get blamed for it.
I hate psg and I hate their fans telling me they’ve also been through it, they can enjoy spending £2mil a month on wages while people pretend to be outrage but never do anything as per usual.

 

[ninjamonkey]

Again, I don’t care.

Gets pissed off about something that's not even correct but doesn't care enough to stand corrected. Top man.

Why does it piss you off so much in the first place if you don't care?

Edit- Seeing as you edited to include more than you not caring, I'll do the same.

PSG had the exact same punishment for FFP breaches as we got, they suffered further intense scrutiny and another investigation after they signed Neymar and Mbappe for no reason other than people had decided it looked dodgy, there was nothing to suggest that, but was still investigated before being cleared.

We only suffered a further investigation after our initial charge because of leaked/hacked documents.

For all the money they spend on ridiculous wages, until this summer, city have a higher wage bill. They choose to top load their wage bill with the top earners getting eye watering sums that put our top earners to shame but they make concessions elsewhere. doesn't matter how its split all that matters is the total and until this summer its been lower than ours and the two clubs bring in roughly the same amount of revenue too.

If you're throwing random FFP accusations at them then you have to accept and acknowledge the bullshit ones we get from the bitterest of fans as credible.

 

[Calv_from_the_frog]

You can find fans of City here who didn't want Messi at all while some were in frenzy. There are even some who think Grealish has more marketing power than Messi. Different people, different opinions.

The PSG fans i know, those on PSG forum are overwhelmingly excited and are rejoicing.

And just for the transfer muppetry it is so good. Nobody is a professional fan and we can't just stay rational all the time nitpicking some details like Messi salary or his age or his lack of back tracking. We want to embrace the fun and dream. If it ends in disaster on the pitch, too bad, the time will come to cry. Now, the time is to enjoy.

No mate, I mean - as someone who lives in Paris, and has done for the majority of the past 21 years - whilst being excited, most seem to agree that its not a great idea financially or from a team harmony point of view.

Then again, I know more 'old school' PSG fans, not the 'new breed'.

 

[Bluesince88]

He's not wrong though. PSG went big on Neymar and Mbappe and it cost them a couple of windows because of it. They've had to rely largely on freebies and loans as well as trimming the squad last couple of windows to comply with FFP. In fact, we've spent a good chunk more than PSG in total since and including the window they bought Neymar.

This Messi thread has really shown our fans are no better than the rest of the league when it comes to throwing out uninformed crap about FFP. Didn't we just spend about a fortnight laughing at clueless villa fans for doing the same thing many of us are now saying about PSG?

Yep, fickleness of football fans sadly. Whilst laughing at villa fans reading into every small thing to go in their favour, like many on here now thinking messi will be coming here. Not a chance.

 

[malg]

Yep, fickleness of football fans sadly. Whilst laughing at villa fans reading into every small thing to go in their favour, like many on here now thinking messi will be coming here. Not a chance.

Yep. Let it go. So obvious he would never turn up here.

 

[MadchesterCity]

I wasn't comparing the nationalities, I was comparing the quality of player coming in from each league regardless of their nationality. It wasn't my only point and wasn't offering anything definitive, simply an example to counter the point made about the Italian league being seen as a test whereas the French league is deemed a farmers league. There's very little difference in quality between the two leagues.

Both the French league and Italian leagues have twelve teams who would struggle in championship. I have lost all respect for Messi