Climate Change is here and man made

There are more polar bears on the plant than their were in the 1970's another fact the climate alarmists in also overlook these days.
There’s more polar bears because they are coming further and further south scavenging human trash. The ice flows they used to hunt on are shrinking and they are more and more coming into contact with human habitation.

The fact they are adapting and perhaps thriving isn’t any sort of argument against climate change.

Any animal that learns to adapt to coexistence with humans survives. Those that don’t aren’t so lucky.
 
There’s more polar bears because they are coming further and further south scavenging human trash. The ice flows they used to hunt on are shrinking and they are more and more coming into contact with human habitation.

The fact they are adapting and perhaps thriving isn’t any sort of argument against climate change.

Any animal that learns to adapt to coexistence with humans survives. Those that don’t aren’t so lucky.

It’s a bit of a daft thing to bring up because he knows it's down to laws placing restrictions on hunting them. Something he has previously admitted in the past.

I don't think many would argue against the point that if Humans get together and decide to persecute a species directly, they can wipe it out to the point of endangered or extinct status far quicker than if they just fucked up its natural habitat.

American Bison is one but there are countless examples from the past.

Just another irrelevant cliche, like the unhealthy preoccupation with Greta Thunberg.
 
I replied to another poster who incorrectly concluded I was comparing climate change to Y2K gordon and you have read my posts on this subject for a while now so you should know better.

I was talking about fear and hysteria and how it impacts on the mind in comparing reactions and frothing on the mouth.

your analogy is bizarre at best and has nothing to do with fear or alarmism and woe is me which achieves nothing and I must say often is deceptively equated to " reality ".

there are many benefits from warming the planet as well better crops , food production , greening etc which are always overlooked just for starters.

There are more polar bears on the plant than their were in the 1970's another fact the climate alarmists also overlook these days.


This is not an argument Gordon not in my case anyway as you allude to and jump on I agree the planet has warmed around a degree in the past 100 years and man made emissions has contributed to this.

if not for the industrial revolution in your country gordon you probably wouldn't have been around to draw poor conclusions to my post.

Calm down a little before you spout this stuff of yours and look at the facts and the science we are probably on the same ticket with some minor exceptions.

2 points.

1) Farmers in the UK are already reporting not being able to run multiple harvests due to lack of summer showers. the UK farmers are currently investigating different types of crop to plant that may help get around this issue but we are not in a place of "better crops and food production".

2) Polar bears. we hunted them to near extinction, we stopped hunting them and population grew. that increase has nothing to do with the climate being OK for them but is a example of conservation working.

Also, for what ever reason, Greening is already slowing and has been slowing for about 8-10 years.
 
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It’s a bit of a daft thing to bring up because he knows it's down to laws placing restrictions on hunting them. Something he has previously admitted in the past.

I don't think many would argue against the point that if Humans get together and decide to persecute a species directly, they can wipe it out to the point of endangered or extinct status far quicker than if they just fucked up its natural habitat.

American Bison is one but there are countless examples from the past.

Just another irrelevant cliche, like the unhealthy preoccupation with Greta Thunberg.
Is she an endangered species?
 
It’s a bit of a daft thing to bring up because he knows it's down to laws placing restrictions on hunting them. Something he has previously admitted in the past.

I don't think many would argue against the point that if Humans get together and decide to persecute a species directly, they can wipe it out to the point of endangered or extinct status far quicker than if they just fucked up its natural habitat.

American Bison is one but there are countless examples from the past.

Just another irrelevant cliche, like the unhealthy preoccupation with Greta Thunberg.
Greta Thunberg triggers middle aged blokes more than anything or anyone I've ever seen. It's genuinely pathetic watching and listening to them squirm
 
There’s more polar bears because they are coming further and further south scavenging human trash. The ice flows they used to hunt on are shrinking and they are more and more coming into contact with human habitation.

The fact they are adapting and perhaps thriving isn’t any sort of argument against climate change.

Any animal that learns to adapt to coexistence with humans survives. Those that don’t aren’t so lucky.
Didn't suggest it was.

We always have to adapt with the passage of time as do plant and animal life as we are dependant on their adaption.
 
Didn't suggest it was.

We always have to adapt with the passage of time as do plant and animal life as we are dependant on their adaption.

The issue plants and animals have is that we are changing the environment around them so rapidly, they simply don't have a chance to adapt. Which is one of the reasons things are going to shit.
 
The issue plants and animals have is that we are changing the environment around them so rapidly, they simply don't have a chance to adapt. Which is one of the reasons things are going to shit.
They actually have a head start on us and its good they do.

the same premise you make would have been levelled at the evolution of man by man when he hunted beyond subsistence and patriarchy was the normal order of things based only on relative physical strength.

As you say your generation can and will turn the shit around into a flower of beauty.
 
They actually have a head start on us and its good they do.

the same premise you make would have been levelled at the evolution of man by man when he hunted beyond subsistence and patriarchy was the normal order of things based only on relative physical strength.

As you say your generation can and will turn the shit around into a flower of beauty.
Meanwhile me and my generation only have another 20-25 years left on the planet.
We might as well go out in a blaze of glory. If the next generation have got this, why should we worry about phasing back on our excesses.
Like your line of thinking. May even get some decent summers, before we pop our clogs.
 
You're vastly underestimating the implications of climate change.
I may be. I may not. Makes fuck all difference either way. But I have a positive outlook on life and am generally a happy person. If others would prefer to be miserable, then fine by me, but being miserable or happy is not going to change the outcome. Just whether you're miserable or not.
 
That’s an exaggeration. There’s maybe half a dozen programmes made on the topic a year, they might be repeated a few times a month, and it’s well down the list of coverage that any news outlet gives it compared to even things like the Royal Family or celebrity gossip.
I am not talking about programs specifically about it. I am talking about the fact that not a day goes by without it being mentioned on the TV channels repeatedly. Not a single day.
 
I may be. I may not. Makes fuck all difference either way. But I have a positive outlook on life and am generally a happy person. If others would prefer to be miserable, then fine by me, but being miserable or happy is not going to change the outcome. Just whether you're miserable or not.

Irrelevant to the topic in question.

Most people I know in the activism space generally have a positive outlook on things otherwise, why else would they do it?

Being positive and playing 'let's pretend' are not the same thing. Just because people care deeply about the subject and want governments/people to be aware of the issues, doesn't mean they are not 'positive'.

Again this has a tone of burying your head in the sand and not actually facing the realities of the situation and calling those 'negative' and 'unhappy' that do, is disingenuous.
 
Irrelevant to the topic in question.

Most people I know in the activism space generally have a positive outlook on things otherwise, why else would they do it?

Being positive and playing 'let's pretend' are not the same thing. Just because people care deeply about the subject and want governments/people to be aware of the issues, doesn't mean they are not 'positive'.
You did a brilliant job of fooling me with your constant posts of impending doom. Fuck me you must be a total barrel of laughs then if you thought the world was NOT coming to an end. Good for you.
 
can i just say that nearly 200 years of coal fires being used by everybody right up to the 1980s it was not our fault
the smoke fill the air to a point it was thinker than fog and towns like london was a ghost town

the damage was done long before and now we are being asked to change ? i think since the 2000 we have changed or been asked to change and its still not good enough
 
can i just say that nearly 200 years of coal fires being used by everybody right up to the 1980s it was not our fault
the smoke fill the air to a point it was thinker than fog and towns like london was a ghost town

the damage was done long before and now we are being asked to change ? i think since the 2000 we have changed or been asked to change and its still not good enough

Thats not accurate, most of the damage has come in the last 2-3 decades.
 
You did a brilliant job of fooling me with your constant posts of impending doom. Fuck me you must be a total barrel of laughs then if you thought the world was NOT coming to an end. Good for you.

Bloody hell mate, you must live in a right on bubble of hopium and have little exposure to the outside world if someone pointing out the realities of the climate crisis is enough to send you into quotes of 'impending doom' and become an agitated mess.
 
It’s a bit of a daft thing to bring up because he knows it's down to laws placing restrictions on hunting them. Something he has previously admitted in the past.

I don't think many would argue against the point that if Humans get together and decide to persecute a species directly, they can wipe it out to the point of endangered or extinct status far quicker than if they just fucked up its natural habitat.

American Bison is one but there are countless examples from the past.

Just another irrelevant cliche, like the unhealthy preoccupation with Greta Thunberg.
You know what sort of people they are having a go at an autistic child for being concerned about the planet. Proper sad scumbags.
 

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