Climate Change is here and man made

[mancity1]

They aren't mutually exclusive. Climate change has a measurable effect on biodiversity. The less local crops we are able to grow locally the more we have to import, which in turn effect climate change, which in turn... you guessed it effects biodiversity.

Non made induced climate change has an impact as well but your point is well made.

That was not was I raising though.

its well known that crops are better in the main in warmer , wetter climates as is biodiversity which is all I was saying but I shouldn't generalise as some biodiversity requires cooler , drier climate to flourish.

I don't know that increased Co2 levels in the atmosphere from mans endeavours though will eventually destroy mans ability to crow and harvest food or that a 1.5 degree increase till 2030 will signal the end of humanity but if we live enough I guess we will find out.

 

[Manchester33]

Where did covid start?

interested in your views China's CCP said it was introduced from the American military.

of course if it didn't start in Wuhan you would know where it did.

the jury is still out on when and how and that is not good if want better responses to the next one.

You and Greta would make a good couple.

Joe is still asking to find out as are most of the western leaders the same ones who claim Australia is floundering on climate change but never say so when they meet up ala G7 .

Is it not the middle of the night in Melbourne?

You're a proper sad bastard staying up to WUM strangers on the internet.

 

[hilts]

Oh the fucking irony.

A degree and a crystal ball bought from the Tory conference are powerful tools.

 

[mancity1]

Irrelevant to the subject at hand. The reference was merely made to highlight conspiracy theories which are seriously detrimental to any sensible discussion on this subject.

Boy this bloke has many who speak for him TMT and it wasn't me that said the Wuhan lab was conspiracy theory.

We don't know if it is or is not time will tell , I agree conspiracy theories don't help but all views add to the conversation.

Remember when we all believed the world was flat , some still do (LOL).

 

[Bazzmand Show]

I thought you were finishing the matter , nasty temper you have bazz , I can't see you achieving much in Glasgow especially when your enemies congregate.

You negotiation skills need some brushing up on , a bit like Trump you leftie.

Not long before your true nature surfaces.

is manchester33 your brother ?

Theres absolutely 0 point trying to have a reasonable discssion with you, as regardless of any point you make being countered with articles and actual data/information - you come back with the same sarcastic bullshit.

The fact that you don't seem to really have much understanding on how biodiversity loss impacts climate and visa versa, reinforces it.

Anyway, your generation are fighting against the change (your choice), but people younger and of my generation are shifting you on quickly. The time of the boomers is coming to an end and I look forward to the positive changes that brings.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Boy this bloke has many who speak for him TMT and it wasn't me that said the Wuhan lab was conspiracy theory.

We don't know if it is or is not time will tell , I agree conspiracy theories don't help but all views add to the conversation.

Remember when we all believed the world was flat , some still do (LOL).

Just have a sneaking suspicion you might be referring to yourself in third person here.

 

[mancity1]

Is it not the middle of the night in Melbourne?

You're a proper sad bastard staying up to WUM strangers on the internet.

I can't do it nearly as well as you at least your mates attempt to debate even if they have your tongue.

If you think I am WUM then check out buddy pretty simple its not sad its free speech.

You like to get personal and with that attitude you will have few real friends in life only those that use you when they need you.

As for bastard I know my father do you?

 

[mancity1]

Just have a sneaking suspicion you might be referring to yourself in third person here.

I like suspicion its the start of inspiration.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

I can't do it nearly as well as you at least your mates attempt to debate even if they have your tongue.

If you think I am WUM then check out buddy pretty simple its not sad its free speech.

You like to get personal and with that attitude you will have few real friends in life only those that use you when they need you.

As for bastard I know my father do you?

You come across as a rather odd chap to be honest....

 

[hilts]

I can't do it nearly as well as you at least your mates attempt to debate even if they have your tongue.

If you think I am WUM then check out buddy pretty simple its not sad its free speech.

You like to get personal and with that attitude you will have few real friends in life only those that use you when they need you.

As for bastard I know my father do you?

Is it Donald Trump?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Non made induced climate change has an impact as well but your point is well made.

That was not was I raising though.

its well known that crops are better in the main in warmer , wetter climates as is biodiversity which is all I was saying but I shouldn't generalise as some biodiversity requires cooler , drier climate to flourish.

I don't know that increased Co2 levels in the atmosphere from mans endeavours though will eventually destroy mans ability to crow and harvest food or that a 1.5 degree increase till 2030 will signal the end of humanity but if we live enough I guess we will find out.

We live within an ecosystem. An ecosystem in general is a biological community of interacting organisms and their physical environment. If we zoom out and view the Earth as our ecosystem then EVERYTHING we do has an impact, however small or large.

Biodiversity is very important. One of the less understood elements of biodiversity is that has a bearing on crop/plant stability, which in turn has an effect on soil quality. Plant roots also help to bind the soil and prevent erosion. As we have seen with the Indonesian/Brazilian Rain Forests, if you cut the trees down the soil washes away pretty quickly which then makes the land pretty useless for anything else.

 

[mancity1]

Theres absolutely 0 point trying to have a reasonable discssion with you, as regardless of any point you make being countered with articles and actual data/information - you come back with the same sarcastic bullshit.

The fact that you don't seem to really have much understanding on how biodiversity loss impacts climate and visa versa, reinforces it.

Anyway, your generation are fighting against the change (your choice), but people younger and of my generation are shifting you on quickly. The time of the boomers is coming to an end and I look forward to the positive changes that brings.

Don't like your mother and father or your grandparents then I presume , very sad attitude to have mate , you only learn from the elderly and the wise.

With that attitude your kids will shift you on in no time.

I am not a climate change sceptic quite the opposite , its the approach to the challenges it poses that interests me.

You on the other hand tonight at least to date have nothing but alarmist rhetoric to state.

Good on you if that rings your bell as others have already posted.

What do actually think is required to minimise the " destruction " of the planet as we know it that has served mankind well for millions of years and its rich biodiversity in little time?

I have posed a few somewhat extreme measures and to date you haven't to the best of my knowledge other than a few grabs from the internet which you just post without analysis or commentary posted a jot other than attack me personally for my so called "denial".

 

[mancity1]

Is it Donald Trump?

Where I thought he was cactus , your not bringing back to life are you?

 

[west didsblue]

I live in hope that the CoC will be updated one day to prohibit fucking lunatics from posting page after page of unadulterated shite.

 

[mancity1]

Jesus.....

Yes the coral is not technically dead when it's white, it's a last ditch effort to effectively save itself. But to suggest it just goes white and then the algae returns is ignorant beyond belief.

It means the reef is absolutely on life support.

Not true visit the reef when you get the chance it will long out live you.

Jesus.....

Yes the coral is not technically dead when it's white, it's a last ditch effort to effectively save itself. But to suggest it just goes white and then the algae returns is ignorant beyond belief.

It means the reef is absolutely on life support.

 

[mancity1]

You come across as a rather odd chap to be honest....

Cheers , you come across as pretty smug but I reckon you have some good moral fibre.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

We planted three trees in the back garden last autumn, called ‘Joseph’s Rock‘ so done our bit for the planet and they look lovely this year.

Sorbus.
Lovely red berries in Autumn.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

That's a Mountain Ash mate. Smells like piss when it's flowering. There was one in my Mums garden that we called the urine tree.

A bit unfair.
Lovely flowers in spring and berries in autumn.
The rowan is an indigenous tree too.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

This isn't a conversation about who does most, it's about acknowledging that everyone needs to help a little. Your posts will only encourage people to leave it for others and not help drive the change in behaviour required.

I've read up on some of the innovation coming soon, so called 'eco-innovation'.. of course the future is here, however pressing that nothing else is of consequence is just blind stupidity.

You don't post things encouraging people to help out a little though. You decide what others should do based on your own preferences and then say that those who don't subscribe to this are putting their lifestyle or taste over the planet. This doesn't encourage anyone to change their behaviour, it's just a chance to virtue signal for you.

Good luck with your slacktivism though.

 

[mancity1]

I agree, but just think it's sad that it's only when deaths on our doorstep that we are capabe of doing anything.

We are much better than that as a species and we have proven that time and time again when the climate was warming many times throughout the planets history since we discovered fire.

You seem to dismiss history as a non event or needs to be erased and only the newbies can save the planet that must be " saved " to make up for the ills of the past.

mankind has faced many challenges in the past , climate change is another and there will be many others to follow.

BTW are you an academic , as you don't seem to have much time for academia for some reason but I might be wrong.

I doubt you would ever be the type of guy that builds things for a living for example.