Onholiday(somemightsay)
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WTF.
Where's the un-see button...........
WTF.
WTF.
Nothing says respect like eating a bag of chips on someone’s grave while you have a massive stinking dog turd on the sole of your shoeWhere's the un-see button...........
Yep...But please remember Ole inherited this from Jose as his first 11.
Dave
Valencia
Jones/Bailly
smalling/Victor
Young (Luke Shaw couldn't get minutes under Jose)
Matic
ander/Fellani
Pogba (player was broken)
Rashford
Rom
Lingard (Martial couldn't get minutes under Jose)
He's literally had to buy a whole new first team, try to get rid of the deadwood not mentioned in this 11 some of which we still have.
Whether city fans wants to admit it Ole's has improved the squad an infinite amount, he's improved our first 11, improved the club atmosphere and the thing united fans love the most is the amount of minutes academy lads have got. There's plenty of stats showing how he's gave more minutes to academy players than any other manager since he's been here.
Since he's been at the club only Pep and Klopp have collected more points.
He's came close to winning a couple of trophies and we all know how small the margins can be between success and failure.
It's obvious he's not as good a manager as Pep of Klopp and may never be but he doesn't just manage on Vibes. You don't come 3rd, then 2nd on vibes, you don't beat City three times in one season on Vibes and who knows if he's the right man to bring proper glory back to OT but he's taking us into the right direction and if he gets sacked or even quits the squad will be in a much better potion for the next manager to come in and take over.
Pep's spent a billion, one billion and he took over a title winning team I believe or at least a strong squad. Yet you have no champions league. It's true
Ole's built a strong squad and we are improving but deny it all you want if that's your thing.
Pogba definitely divides opinions amongst Utd fans. If we had all players fit he wouldn't make my first 11 despite being more talented than others that would. Whole is greater than sum of it's parts and all that I guess and we have a better balance more often or not when he's not starting.
I think with Varane and your view that la liga is a joke these days you need to look at the whole ten years he was at Madrid when la liga was strong or even when he was winning champions league for fun during competitive times.
Dias has done ok and the Portuguese league is weaker than the la liga i'd say but Varane isn't a guaranteed transfer success as I mentioned above.
Dias was a brilliant signing for City, big fan of his as I am of Stones and Laporte tbf.
fortunately fryed liver was not on his menuNothing says respect like eating a bag of chips on someone’s grave while you have a massive stinking dog turd on the sole of your shoe
you dont want a naked flame near Best's liver, no matter how long it's been undergroundfortunately fryed liver was not on his menu
Yep...But please remember Ole inherited this from Jose as his first
Solskjaer inherited a team that had finished second a few months before he was appointed.Yep...But please remember Ole inherited this from Jose as his first 11.
Dave
Valencia
Jones/Bailly
smalling/Victor
Young (Luke Shaw couldn't get minutes under Jose)
Matic
ander/Fellani
Pogba (player was broken)
Rashford
Rom
Lingard (Martial couldn't get minutes under Jose)
He's literally had to buy a whole new first team, try to get rid of the deadwood not mentioned in this 11 some of which we still have.
Whether city fans wants to admit it Ole's has improved the squad an infinite amount, he's improved our first 11, improved the club atmosphere and the thing united fans love the most is the amount of minutes academy lads have got. There's plenty of stats showing how he's gave more minutes to academy players than any other manager since he's been here.
Since he's been at the club only Pep and Klopp have collected more points.
He's came close to winning a couple of trophies and we all know how small the margins can be between success and failure.
It's obvious he's not as good a manager as Pep of Klopp and may never be but he doesn't just manage on Vibes. You don't come 3rd, then 2nd on vibes, you don't beat City three times in one season on Vibes and who knows if he's the right man to bring proper glory back to OT but he's taking us into the right direction and if he gets sacked or even quits the squad will be in a much better potion for the next manager to come in and take over.
Pep's spent a billion, one billion and he took over a title winning team I believe or at least a strong squad. Yet you have no champions league. It's true
Ole's built a strong squad and we are improving but deny it all you want if that's your thing.
They've basically turned into Liverpool which isn't surprising as they're basically two cheeks of the same arse.United fans getting giddy again. Every fuckin year till after Christmas when they'll say "we need at least four players to complete the squad". Forever in transition. Wouldn't mind but they do have a good squad. But it must be like having a Ferrari and letting your drunk uncle drive it.
There is a bigger one in his shoes!Nothing says respect like eating a bag of chips on someone’s grave while you have a massive stinking dog turd on the sole of your shoe
I admire the defence of Ole and certain points can be agreed with. Anyone after Jose would have got the squad playing, just off not being a bell end. I think he’s a good man manager, tactically inept though. I don’t think you can pick derby games as a measure. Sven done the double over you, we beat you a couple of times with Keegan and even Pearce. I’d never say they was close to Ferguson, the underdog always has a spring in their step as we did in them years. Pep gets no credit as he has spent money, Ole has spent a bucket full of cash since coming in, he had to as you pointed out the players were crap before but improvement is inevitable. Playing academy players is great if they’re good enough, it’s not something to celebrate of them academy players are bang average. United have bought well this summer and if he doesn’t mount a serious title challenge considering what he’s spent then he’s most definitely failed. Again. I get why United fans would like him, he’s likeable to be fair but he is nowhere near a top class manager. He got the job through links to the club and when he inevitably leaves the top clubs won’t be fighting for him. It says a lot when you are happy he’s signed a new contract and every other teams fans are happy too. Time will tell next year but surely it’s a make or break season.
Where does this come from?Can ole improve Tactically....100% yes, but to call a manager tactically inept who came 3rd, then 2nd (which is progression) finishing above managers such as Klopp or Rodgers throughout an entire season which you can't really fluke like a cup run seems a little harsh to me.
To go an entire season unbeaten away from home ( all clubs had no away fans to deal yet no other managers went unbeaten away from home) again doesn't seem like a manager who's tactically inept.
This whole ole manages through Vibes only is such a lazy narrative and there's even united fans who believe it.
So since he took over at united there's no way he should have won the league with the squads he's had therefore 3rd and 2nd which in no way is good enough for United btw is realistically the best he can do. Any fan of united, city, pool or whoever who mocks Ole for not winning the league since he took over are just hating for the sake of hating.
We had no right to challenge for the league under Ole ( Are squad simply cannot compete with your's for depth, that's a fact) therefore that only leaves cups and tbf to Ole his record at reaching semi's and finals ( deep runs in cup competitions) he has achieved. Would it have been nice to win a cup since he took over ? Hell yes, but to win a cup you need luck and the margins are fine and lets be honest he was a penalty shoot out away from winning realistically the biggest competition he was expected to win as I've already pointed out winning the league is a completely unrealistic target for him.
This whole talk of no other clubs would be interested in Ole is just Lazy speculation.
How does anyone know for ffs. Are you speaking on behalf of all football club owners where this has already been mooted in some sort of whatt'sapp group that i wasn't invited too.
Red IssueWhere does this come from?
Could have just as easily been the Liverpool thread to be fair............Red Issue
Nah, not enough rabid Covidiot conspiracy lunacy to be Red IssueRed Issue
Why did you have no right to challenge for titles with City if you've spent around the same amount as us in the last few years?Can ole improve Tactically....100% yes, but to call a manager tactically inept who came 3rd, then 2nd (which is progression) finishing above managers such as Klopp or Rodgers throughout an entire season which you can't really fluke like a cup run seems a little harsh to me.
To go an entire season unbeaten away from home ( all clubs had no away fans to deal yet no other managers went unbeaten away from home) again doesn't seem like a manager who's tactically inept.
This whole ole manages through Vibes only is such a lazy narrative and there's even united fans who believe it.
So since he took over at united there's no way he should have won the league with the squads he's had therefore 3rd and 2nd which in no way is good enough for United btw is realistically the best he can do. Any fan of united, city, pool or whoever who mocks Ole for not winning the league since he took over are just hating for the sake of hating.
We had no right to challenge for the league under Ole ( Are squad simply cannot compete with your's for depth, that's a fact) therefore that only leaves cups and tbf to Ole his record at reaching semi's and finals ( deep runs in cup competitions) he has achieved. Would it have been nice to win a cup since he took over ? Hell yes, but to win a cup you need luck and the margins are fine and lets be honest he was a penalty shoot out away from winning realistically the biggest competition he was expected to win as I've already pointed out winning the league is a completely unrealistic target for him.
This whole talk of no other clubs would be interested in Ole is just Lazy speculation.
How does anyone know for ffs. Are you speaking on behalf of all football club owners where this has already been mooted in some sort of whatt'sapp group that i wasn't invited too.
Can ole improve Tactically....100% yes, but to call a manager tactically inept who came 3rd, then 2nd (which is progression) finishing above managers such as Klopp or Rodgers throughout an entire season which you can't really fluke like a cup run seems a little harsh to me.
To go an entire season unbeaten away from home ( all clubs had no away fans to deal yet no other managers went unbeaten away from home) again doesn't seem like a manager who's tactically inept.
This whole ole manages through Vibes only is such a lazy narrative and there's even united fans who believe it.
So since he took over at united there's no way he should have won the league with the squads he's had therefore 3rd and 2nd which in no way is good enough for United btw is realistically the best he can do. Any fan of united, city, pool or whoever who mocks Ole for not winning the league since he took over are just hating for the sake of hating.
We had no right to challenge for the league under Ole ( Are squad simply cannot compete with your's for depth, that's a fact) therefore that only leaves cups and tbf to Ole his record at reaching semi's and finals ( deep runs in cup competitions) he has achieved. Would it have been nice to win a cup since he took over ? Hell yes, but to win a cup you need luck and the margins are fine and lets be honest he was a penalty shoot out away from winning realistically the biggest competition he was expected to win as I've already pointed out winning the league is a completely unrealistic target for him.
This whole talk of no other clubs would be interested in Ole is just Lazy speculation.
How does anyone know for ffs. Are you speaking on behalf of all football club owners where this has already been mooted in some sort of whatt'sapp group that i wasn't invited too.