Harry Kane

[qshot989]

Exactly.

It's all up to Levy at this point, £150m+ was the reported fee right at the beginning, we reportedly offered £50/£60m less than that or a player + cash, and nothing appears to have changed since. Kane clearly didn't show up to train when he should have done potentially in the hopes that it would rock the boat but Levy doesn't give a fuck and now the season is underway Levy is just waiting for us to "do one". Gentlemen's agreements don't mean jack at the end of the day contracts do and he is under one until 2024. Much like any other contract if Kane really wants out he is going to have to buy his way out because I really can't see us being dictated to, we like to negotiate and right now there isn't any negotiation as Pep has stated himself. If we were going to go to £150m I think we will have done so already. Shame he didn't insert a release clause when he signed his new contract in 2018, more players need to do it.

 

[SkyBlueCanuck]

Or the reality that Levy wants £160m for Kane and we don't want to pay more than £100m plus add-ons and we're at an impasse

Do you figure that City went to Kane, knew that he wanted us, made an arrangement with him and his people to do this thing, did all of the necessary financial work to make certain that they could afford 2 new star players' transfer fees and wages, made no plan B while letting Kun's deal expire... and that they didn't know what the price was going to be?
Or that it would be some sort of moving target because Levy is just that awesome of a negotiator and would play chicken with his Billion-in-debt club's best player who will never be worth this much to him ever again? A player who already has his Spurs team mates tweeting and gramming backhanded digs about him?

I can't see it that way, Bob. Levy isn't an idiot, he knows that 160M never happens and he knows that the die is cast and Harry has checked out. He even gets to look like a sympathetic hero figure to Spurs for getting 20M+ more than our "original offer" of 100M (which was dropped into the Neville interview to feed this contrived narrative). And Harry gets to be the villain. Levy may even use the excuse of the deal being done so late that they haven't time to buy replacements... so he can pay the transfer fee to Spurs' debt... which may have been his goal anyway.

People thought that Villa was driving a hard bargain and negotiations were hot and heavy in the days and weeks leading up to the Grealish announcement... Come to find out that it was done for months. And miraculously, Villa pulls off a sudden flurry of business bringing in new players quickly.

If I'm wrong it will be easy to tell.
But if I'm right, deals will start getting announced for Spurs, the tens-of-Millions of pounds sort that don't happen overnight.

 

[City Raider]

Listen folks. The fact that it has gone quite is indicative that a deal is getting done not the other way around.

relax

Pretty much my take. Plus the fact he is at training and not handed in a transfer request, which he might have been willing to do. Either haggling over addons or more likely Spurs need to bring in a replacement before signing off on it.

 

[mattyb]

Time spent on here distorts people's views of what City fans actually are. It operates like a weird prism, particularly for foreign fans or those who don't attend games.

Some sense coming from a South Manchester lad, I’m from Burnage myself, went to Parrswood

 

[Romeo_451]

Seems pretty simple to me this.

I consider the fee is agreed.

Spurs need to get their signings, with particular emphasis on Kane's replacement, in before they can / will allow Kane to go.

There is no way Spurs would want the clubs they are buying from to know they have "the Kane money" burning a big hole in their pockets.

Therefore, most of this signing being finalised will depend on whether Spurs can navigate their own situation.

well if the fee is agreed, i doubt Kane would play and risk an injury even if he's "still their player"

 

[mosssideblue]

We may well have done, City dont usually go public if they walk away from a deal or not. Usually very little comes out at all until a deal is reached as you said yourself

You clearly believe that no one would have leaked it had we walked. Fair enough, I disagree.

 

[Eyebluejay]

Seems pretty simple to me this.

I consider the fee is agreed.

Spurs need to get their signings, with particular emphasis on Kane's replacement, in before they can / will allow Kane to go.

There is no way Spurs would want the clubs they are buying from to know they have "the Kane money" burning a big hole in their pockets.

Therefore, most of this signing being finalised will depend on whether Spurs can navigate their own situation.

A bit naive but here's hoping

 

[bobmcfc]

From mutiny to a bit annoyed.

What a climb down.

Didn't say bit

 

[HelloCity]

Kane is a striker, Grealish a midfielder. Was Aguero a better player than David Silva because he scored more goals !? Grealish is also much younger.Deary me.

Depends on what you mean by better player. C Ronaldo is one of the greatest players of all time due to his goal scoring exploits.

There have been many players who have been technically superior to him with their overall ball work though.

Does that make them a better player or does Ronaldo being better at his job within the game (putting the ball in the net) make him the better player?

Kane’s one of the world’s greatest strikers and centre forwards. I’d say that made him a great player.

 

[ancoats]

Why would Levy be holding Kane to ransom ? Kane signed a long term contract with Levy in good faith - unless City meet Levy's valuation then Levy is within his rights to tell Kane to honour his contract and to get on with it. No point in signing a contract if a player can want it waived when the first sniff of outside interest comes along.

the value in kane to spurs is the value of the contract ? its modern day football sadly
the club and chairman can ask for a price but buying clubs now the value of that player contact and player power rules

 

[bobmcfc]

Time spent on here distorts people's views of what City fans actually are. It operates like a weird prism, particularly for foreign fans or those who don't attend games.

Good job I'm not a Foreign fan who doesn't attend games eh Dave lol

 

[mattyb]

Good job I'm not a Foreign fan who doesn't attend games eh Dave lol

Makes it worse to be honest bob

 

[Blootoof]

Not really. Messi had the same so called agreement he could leave but that all went bollocks up. Kane told us he could leave, 100m would do it but it's heading in the same direction. We owe kane absolutely nothing

Not saying we owe him owt just that he would feel like a bit of a pig in the middle if it all falls through. Not sure he's got any bridges left.

 

[Phil Mitchell Foden]

Some sense coming from a South Manchester lad, I’m from Burnage myself, went to Parrswood

Your uniform was better when it was fluorescent green.

 

[Gabriel]

Seems pretty simple to me this.

I consider the fee is agreed.

Spurs need to get their signings, with particular emphasis on Kane's replacement, in before they can / will allow Kane to go.

There is no way Spurs would want the clubs they are buying from to know they have "the Kane money" burning a big hole in their pockets.

Therefore, most of this signing being finalised will depend on whether Spurs can navigate their own situation.

If Spurs currently knock on any door and enquire about any player, then the price is going to go up. This deal has been so protracted and as of recent weeks acrimonious, that whatever leverage Levy gains over us, he loses it in the multiple deals he then has to make.

 

[bobmcfc]

Anyway Part of me hopes this is all done but when it's getting so close to deadline and all the noise out of spurs saying it's not even close. Anyway I'm gonna give this thread a wide swerve for abit till we know something concrete.

 

[Vester]

Harry Kane was the leading goal scorer & assist maker last season.

He is English which obviously makes him worth a premium.

The fact that some of you don't think he's worth £150m+ is utter madness. If City were happy to shell out for Grealish who was £100m, a guy who has 15 goals and 16 assists IN HIS WHOLE PREMIER LEAGUE CAREER - Kane has bettered that in 1 season playing for an awful side.

Pay Levy the money and it will get done. It is as simple as that.

Why even claim you are a City fan when you obviously are a Spurs fan?

There is one simple reason as to why we dont value Kane that much higher than Grealish. He is 3 years older and have no resale value, something Grealish has.

£100m would make Kane the most expensive 28 year old in history of football, £120-130m even more so. Spurs fans seem to think its peanuts, but its not like someone else is bidding any higher is there? An asset is only worth what someone is willing to pay.
You seem to think Levy holds all the cards, but remember this; Even if City dont buy Kane we will continue to dominate British football like we have done the last decade. We want him, but we are not desperate. Spurs on the other hand have basically nothing to gain by refusing to sell him. You will not win anything anyway, or compete for top4. You would be stuck with a player not wanting to be there, not having any money to rebuild your squad, and his value will only drop. You can either honour your gentlemen's agreement and sell him to the highest bidder, or keep him out of spite and see your club be doomed for mediocrity even longer. But its fair to say that refusing to sell him will make players think twice before they sign any deal with your club. Tottenham Hotspur, the place where dreams of talented football players go to die.

 

[bluetonium]

We have to options, seeming as though levy isn't budging.

Wait until the end of the window then cave in, or hope that levy caves, unlikely I know, but either way losing the player's availability for 2 weeks and risking losing out all together.

Walk away now and find another striker.


Levy may be being pig headed and about to lose himself 50-80m, but if he's set on his strategy then doubtful we can change it. Sounds to me like we're awaiting spurs coming back to negotiate, I don't think they will, so we need to act now one way or the other if we want to being in a striker.

 

[TheGoat]

Or it's all gone tits up and we are clutching our own arses scrambling for alternatives.

Harry Kane told Neville on that interview that his price was 100m. I can guarantee that's been fed to us by him and his useless agent. We gone balls deep for him with that offer only for Levy to say nah I want £160m. Of course we just believe he's being abit cheeky and offer 100m plus add-ons but I think Kane and his crew had deeply misled us from the start. I think we've gone above and beyond on this already but spurs still not budging under £160m.

If that was the case Kane would 100% have played yesterday.

the reason he was back late training is so they had an excuse not to play him. Why would they do that with their best player?

because a deal is already agreed.

 

[Cityinmud]

Sorry Bob, wasnt' referring to you in particular. I just meant that some of the forum's more extreme comments are from people who are miles away from the day-to-day of the club.

What a Ridiculous comment!!