Erling Haaland

[Andrew___K]

I know people get very self-satisfied picturing Raiola on the phone with five different clubs asking each one “club X offered this much, how much do you offer?”, it meets their boogeyman version of the guy, but this isn’t really how it works. Now we just have to wait to see how these things develop.

 

[blueparrot]

I know people get very self-satisfied picturing Raiola on the phone with five different clubs asking each one “club X offered this much, how much do you offer?”, it meets their boogeyman version of the guy, but this isn’t really how it works. Now we just have to wait to see how these things develop.

Maybe , I reckon we could pretty much put our offer on the table today, and if I were to guess what that was I don’t think I’d be far out. Then say to him no rush let us know yes or no in January. Doubt we will wait until summer and be drawn into any auction.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Maybe , I reckon we could pretty much put our offer on the table today, and if I were to guess what that was I don’t think I’d be far out. Then say to him no rush let us know yes or no in January. Doubt we will wait until summer and be drawn into any auction.

But again, reportedly we had more than one offer for Kane. Why would we only have one for Haaland? Where is it written that can’t or won’t improve on an initial offer. I don’t believe we’re sanctimonious about it like some here do

 

[blueparrot]

But again, reportedly we had more than one offer for Kane. Why would we only have one for Haaland? Where is it written that can’t or won’t improve on an initial offer. I don’t believe we’re sanctimonious about it like some here do

We may tinkere around the edges of it or bonuses, we wouldn't substantially change it to match others.Because then it becomes just about money not football and we have proved over and over for 10 years that's how we work,

 

[Deleted member 87819]

We may tinkere around the edges of it or bonuses, we wouldn't substantially change it to match others.Because then it becomes just about money not football and we have proved over and over for 10 years that's how we work,

I don’t agree with this view at all. At all. But we just have to wait and see

 

[decmancity]

Not a chance we are getting into any sort of bidding war. We know what the price to Dortmund is next summer and we have delivered our proposal. If he picks another one then good luck to him.

Start chasing and trying to outbid teams and you end up with what the rags have, a imbalanced squad of players just on hte books for a pay day.

 

[citizen_maine]

Not a chance we are getting into any sort of bidding war. We know what the price to Dortmund is next summer and we have delivered our proposal. If he picks another one then good luck to him.

Start chasing and trying to outbid teams and you end up with what the rags have, a imbalanced squad of players just on hte books for a pay day.

That only happens if you go after any player rather than the one you want

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Double swoop for both Haaland & Bellingham

Yes please

 

[samuelyeboah]

Double swoop for both Haaland & Bellingham

Yes please

no chance we can afford both. in fact I don't think we'll be able to afford anyone if we get haaland, which I hope that we will.

 

[samarasra]

I think you are misunderstanding what I was trying to say. I didn’t say there aren’t happy squads — although we would be surprised to find that some of the most successful teams in football history had extremely chaotic behind the scenes and dressing rooms. What I meant to say is this idea that in every decision made at the club, the “happiness” of the players are taken in consideration. Like it’s a socialist environment, and we need to consult with everybody: “oh Mr Kyle Walker, is it okay if we bring this player X and pay him more than you? Please let us know. If you say you will be unhappy, we are scraping our plans!”

"This happy squad thing is a myth in most occasions." I understood what you wrote. I also understand that their can be success without a happy squad, ask Mourinho, but it usually doesn't last long, how many payouts has Mourinho been paid ?. I'm not sure I or any other poster has suggested the exaggerated scenario you suggest in your final 3 sentences.

 

[Coatigan]

We operate a certain way, a way that has made us successful, after 12 years we aren’t going to suddenly change that, I think every summer there has been talk of going big on somebody and we haven’t. Think Haaland will be the same story and like previously we’ll do just fine.
My opinion is Torres and Delap will get 30 goals between them and we’ll decide the huge cost isn’t worth it for however many goals we think Haaland might score over that 30.

Agree, but the way we have 'operated', Haaland is exactly the type and profile of player we would have gone and signed. This was my point all of lsst summer. Kane was a change to the model, Haaland is not. Doesn't mean I think we will sign him btw, just that he is a fit, both in footballing terms and how the club operate.

 

[Semper aggressus]

We operate a certain way, a way that has made us successful, after 12 years we aren’t going to suddenly change that, I think every summer there has been talk of going big on somebody and we haven’t. Think Haaland will be the same story and like previously we’ll do just fine.
My opinion is Torres and Delap will get 30 goals between them and we’ll decide the huge cost isn’t worth it for however many goals we think Haaland might score over that 30.

My opinion is I think it’s very optimistic to expect Torres (often anonymous and not a striker) and Delap (kid with one senior goal and no experience at PL level) will score 30 goals between them this season, or indeed next season.

I wish they would, but I see nothing special in Torres. He’s a squad level winger with no pace that’s pressed into service as a striker because we still don’t have a real one. We get by because of the genius of Pep, and the skill of Bernardo, Grealish, Gundogan, et al, but we need more than ‘getting by’ and relying on midfielders only to get the goals.

Given the ambition of the club, we really need a proper striker, to bury some of the numerous chances we create but spurn every game. Haaland would be the very best, but any ’good’ natural striker would get a hatful in our team, and that would be enough to win those tight games where chances are fewer but continue to be missed by the likes of Torres, Jesus and Sterling.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

agree, we'll see. I just wouldnt rule them out of stupid spending, theyll expect the govt to bail them out by buying a strip of land for billions and giving it back to them

They had a wedge of cash saved for Mbappe that they can now throw at Haaland

I guess my point is I don't see them doing both.

Mbappe will be available same time as Haaland. They are very clearly linked with Mbappe and I think he is looking at that and running down his contract. That is the one i'd have my money on.

 

[blueparrot]

My opinion is I think it’s very optimistic to expect Torres (often anonymous and not a striker) and Delap (kid with one senior goal and no experience at PL level) will score 30 goals between them this season, or indeed next season.

I wish they would, but I see nothing special in Torres. He’s a squad level winger with no pace that’s pressed into service as a striker because we still don’t have a real one. We get by because of the genius of Pep, and the skill of Bernardo, Grealish, Gundogan, et al, but we need more than ‘getting by’ and relying on midfielders only to get the goals.

Given the ambition of the club, we really need a proper striker, to bury some of the numerous chances we create but spurn every game. Haaland would be the very best, but any ’good’ natural striker would get a hatful in our team, and that would be enough to win those tight games where chances are fewer but continue to be missed by the likes of Torres, Jesus and Sterling.

You may be right but if you are and any 'good' natural striker would score a hatful, then it's another reason why we wouldn't stretch to the figures rported for Haaland. Of course the reports could be bollocks so in that case we may well go for him . Wait and see I guess.

 

[Bluesiam]

We operate a certain way, a way that has made us successful, after 12 years we aren’t going to suddenly change that, I think every summer there has been talk of going big on somebody and we haven’t. Think Haaland will be the same story and like previously we’ll do just fine.
My opinion is Torres and Delap will get 30 goals between them and we’ll decide the huge cost isn’t worth it for however many goals we think Haaland might score over that 30.

This might be a good bet, but needs qualifying. If it's goals in all comps, I would agree. If Premier League only, it's probably over optimistic.

 

[blueparrot]

This might be a good bet, but needs qualifying. If it's goals in all comps, I would agree. If Premier League only, it's probably over optimistic.

Yes, it was all comps. Think Torres is capable of around 15-20 league goals then 10 cup coals between them.

 

[Edward Deadwood]

Even if that's true - and let's face it, every time this is reported the wages go up - then it may be possible.

Over 5 years that's £317m. That's £63m a year over five years and the potential to sell him. Huge - but I bet United would consider it.

Many thought we should have just paid £150m for Kane + 350k a week wages. That would be £240m over five years - so £48m a year on one player, and little chance of selling him later on.

They think he's a £150m+ player, so if there's the best part of £100m that won't need to be paid in a transfer, then they want every penny of it. From what I've read a lot of agents will suggest splitting the benefit of a buy out/free, but I doubt that would happen here.

Good point. I know we are reluctant to include a release cause ourselves should we sign him. However, as an example we could include a modest £167m escape fee that only comes valid five years into a six year contract.

Using the admittedly inflated wages / fees / current fulfilment of Dortmund’s buyout clause that have been bandied about (probably to stave off pressure for Bayern to actually get involved given the dubious Teutonic source) of £317m over five years, the true total cost to us were we to sell him for £167m would be £150m over that period: ie £30m per year.

The Kane option would cost us £18m more per year. So saving us £90m.

We could pay an additional two players £180,000 a week each and have the best years of Haaland for the same price.

 

[Bluesiam]

Yes, it was all comps. Think Torres is capable of around 15-20 league goals then 10 cup coals between them.

I'll go a tenner on that basis.

 

[Mancity0303]

Guess it's Madrid vs City

 

[Mancity0303]