The winter of discontent

aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
I'm skeptical it will happen but the lack of HGV drivers concerns me probably even more than gas price issues.
The government is able to regulate prices to ensure the consumer isn't done over, but a labor shortage will be much harder to solve
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Before too long Johnson will be claiming all his kids and saying he is doing his bit for the UK population growth and urge the UK to " Shag for Britain" - see - even thought to the 3 word slogan !!
 
bluethrunthru said:
Before too long Johnson will be claiming all his kids and saying he is doing his bit for the UK population growth and urge the UK to " Shag for Britain" - see - even thought to the 3 word slogan !!
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Hahaha. Won’t fly with the sun that…bonk for Boris or bonk for Britain might mind.
 
I don’t think it’s just a UK problem and although Brexit is a big factor in the supply chain disruption, there does seem to be an age factor across the whole haulage sector.
It’s hitting the news here in Ireland too. We are immediately short of 2,000 drivers and by Christmas or January they reckon we will need 4,000.
Seeing the fuel queues in Britain too, is only going to panic people here. Warnings by the retailers saying buy or order early, not to be disappointed for Christmas is going to spook people.
 
Just drove past Tesco on Manor Avenue, Sale, and there must be 30 cars in a queue back down the road. ‘Don’t panic!’
 
Govt Minister.

‘There is no fuel shortage. I repeat, THERE IS NO FUEL SHORTAGE!!‘

Times

’EG Group, which has 389 petrol stations, is imposing a £30 limit on fuel because of ‘unprecedented customer demand’

It says this will give ensure ‘all our customers have a fair chance to refuel

It asks customers to treat staff with respect during challenging times‘
 
BobKowalski said:
Govt Minister.

‘There is no fuel shortage. I repeat, THERE IS NO FUEL SHORTAGE!!‘

Times

’EG Group, which has 389 petrol stations, is imposing a £30 limit on fuel because of ‘unprecedented customer demand’

It says this will give ensure ‘all our customers have a fair chance to refuel

It asks customers to treat staff with respect during challenging times‘
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He's right now there is no shortage, or at least there wouldn't be if our silly pm and the media hadn't whipped up a hysterical surge in demand.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
He's right now there is no shortage, or at least there wouldn't be if our silly pm and the media hadn't whipped up a hysterical surge in demand.
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There is a fuel shortage. If we can’t get the fuel to the pumps then there is a fuel shortage.

There is a food shortage. If we can’t get the food out of the fields or to the shops then there is a food shortage.

These are shortages largely caused by a Govt trying to control labour and immigration in a modern economy that relies on free movement of labour and immigration.

If we want to continue this policy of controlling labour and immigration then we have to adapt the economy. For food this will mean less choice, less range and higher prices. For fuel it will mean restricting demand. All of this will depress the economy.

Politicians shouting ’there are no problems’ are reacting to the signs or beginnings of an actual problem and the public take that as their cue to stock up before the shit really hits the fan.
 
Vincent van Rough said:
How many EU drivers actually want to come and work here on a short term visa?
Not many I think.
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My 1st thought when I saw it............ the idea a Polish driver who is employed at home or in Germany say would up sticks for 3 months temporary work here is mad. It would work if the EU was awash with drivers who couldn't find work but this lot are telling us there is a worldwide shortage of drivers so how do the clowns think it will work? I wouldn't mind betting they have done their research and confirmed no-one will come before they made the gesture.
 
Vincent van Rough said:
How many EU drivers actually want to come and work here on a short term visa?
Not many I think.
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The reason UK drivers often give for quitting are the unsociable hours involved and the better pay on offer from delivery companies, and those operate shifts that allow parents to be with their families more. That situation is true in the EU as well, where online shopping has also taken off. I cannot imagine many being enticed away from what they have for a precarious six months in the UK. More likely to attract drivers from east of the EU and Central Asia.
 
Vincent van Rough said:
How many EU drivers actually want to come and work here on a short term visa?
Not many I think.
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Depends how attractive we make it. In reality it will be begrudging, and couched in words like ‘don’t plan on a long stay, as we can't wait to kick you out’.

There may be better opportunities for EU labour closer to home. And it's not just drivers, it's farming, care, and hospitality sectors too.

It is likely we will have to compete with EU countries for non-EU labour. Romania has raised its non-EU labour cap and Germany is relaxing its requirements for non-EU labour. All European countries will need people going forward, which is why the UK putting up barriers to labour, or insisting it be ‘highly skilled’ labour only, was astonishingly dumb. To attract the necessary people to work here, you have to be a better or more attractive option than the countries around you.
 
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