The idiocy (and selfishness) of panic buying

Blue Mist said:
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No sensible posts on here please if you want to do that there is a Transfer Forum.

But yes, totally agree. This thread is about selfish tossers. 5 BP petrol stations closed because they ran out due to a driver shortage. 5 in the whole if the UK. The media whipped up a storm and stupid idiots panicked.
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And that is the issue. The previous week it was none. This week it is five. How many next week or the week after? ‘Shit, I better fill up just in case it gets worse’.

It‘s like a run on a bank or on any commodity. Once you report the first sign of a problem, people will react to ensure they are not impacted by the problem, but the issue is not the reporting of a problem. The issue is making sure there is no problem to report.

Our system runs on confidence. Once you lose the confidence of the public the supply chains are overwhelmed. Add in the fact that supply chains are slowly degrading and you add to the public’s lack of confidence.

One poster was mocking the lack of a few goods at a supermarket and ‘how will we cope.” But the issue is these goods are missing because the systems we rely on are breaking down and people notice this. So, they stock up with a few extra items, which puts more strain on the supply chains and increases shortfalls.

And yes, we voted for this, so yes people are going to mention it.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
It was rather a sweeping statement, and I know there are some good jobs out there, but I do think the industry as a whole is undervalued.

Great job for someone who's just come out of the military already qualified with ADR/Forklift/HIAB and a wealth of experience of driving in the UK and abroad. They could walk into any job, and if they'd done a pensionable engagement (22 Years), then they'd be well sorted and probably better off than when they were in the military.

Conversely, starting from scratch would be a nightmare. There is no way I would even consider it as a youngster starting out now.
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Quite a lot of ex military do what I do (fuel tankers) because they've already got the relevant qualifications after leaving the services.

I still believe it's a profession that would suit some youngsters but I get what you're saying, I've got a 19 year old nephew and I wouldn't recommend it to him as a career choice.

However, if when he's into his mid 20's he's dropped out of whatever he was doing as a teenager and is stumbling about doing a low paid job with little chance of bettering himself as he gets into his 30's I'd suggest it as an option.

It's relatively cheap to get your licence, work and above average wages are pretty much guaranteed for the right person. There's scope for progression in the form of say HIAB, ADR or heavy haulage which in general bring about better wages and conditions or you could simply have a class 1 licence and do supermarket work which won't involve any real distance or nights away from home, is clean and pays pretty well. Only issue could be shifts but again could be a positive for a young family.

There are no doubt some awful jobs about in transport but there are also some very decent ones too and you're absolutely right regarding the industry as a whole being undervalued. Hopefully the current situation wakes a few people in power up to recognise it for what it is, which is an essential cog in keeping the country going.
 
BobKowalski said:
And that is the issue. The previous week it was none. This week it is five. How many next week or the week after? ‘Shit, I better fill up just in case it gets worse’.

It‘s like a run on a bank or on any commodity. Once you report the first sign of a problem, people will react to ensure they are not impacted by the problem, but the issue is not the reporting of a problem. The issue is making sure there is no problem to report.

Our system runs on confidence. Once you lose the confidence of the public the supply chains are overwhelmed. Add in the fact that supply chains are slowly degrading and you add to the public’s lack of confidence.

One poster was mocking the lack of a few goods at a supermarket and ‘how will we cope.” But the issue is these goods are missing because the systems we rely on are breaking down and people notice this. So, they stock up with a few extra items, which puts more strain on the supply chains and increases shortfalls.

And yes, we voted for this, so yes people are going to mention it.
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People find it much easier to blame "selfish idiots", when all they've done is act in an entirely reasonable way, than reflect on the structural and systemic issues they continue to vote for.
 
SPIDERBOY said:
I wonder if there is now a shortage at sperm banks,as all the wankers are queuing at petrol stations?
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To be fair, I think the vast majority of those in queues are people who need to work or have responsibility for others. The idiots with cans are only a tiny minority.
 
Mike N said:
To be fair, I think the vast majority of those in queues are people who need to work or have responsibility for others. The idiots with cans are only a tiny minority.
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Yeah,agree mate,was just joking after seeing a video of some woman filling carrier bags up.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
People find it much easier to blame "selfish idiots", when all they've done is act in an entirely reasonable way, than reflect on the structural and systemic issues they continue to vote for.
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exactly this

of course there is selfish idiots out there - but that doesn't excuse the fact our government have bodged this right up - and we know one of the main reasons - but aren't allowed to mention the B word.
 
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BobKowalski said:
And that is the issue. The previous week it was none. This week it is five. How many next week or the week after? ‘Shit, I better fill up just in case it gets worse’.

It‘s like a run on a bank or on any commodity. Once you report the first sign of a problem, people will react to ensure they are not impacted by the problem, but the issue is not the reporting of a problem. The issue is making sure there is no problem to report.

Our system runs on confidence. Once you lose the confidence of the public the supply chains are overwhelmed. Add in the fact that supply chains are slowly degrading and you add to the public’s lack of confidence.

One poster was mocking the lack of a few goods at a supermarket and ‘how will we cope.” But the issue is these goods are missing because the systems we rely on are breaking down and people notice this. So, they stock up with a few extra items, which puts more strain on the supply chains and increases shortfalls.

And yes, we voted for this, so yes people are going to mention it.
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Spot on Bob , stupidity and scaremongering knows no bounds and no matter the supposed lessons learned in the past people in the main follow like sheep into the abyss.

Much like the scaremongering on climate change and the lockdowns largely by people who have a vested interest to ensure it gains as much traction as possible and are least impacted by rising electricity prices.

meanwhile more of the poor in your country as well are more concerned as to whether they will fall to cold poverty this winter and rightly so as opposed to net zero carbon in 30 years whatever the hell that is and the electric car they need to avoid being in a queue for petrol for hours.

Hope for your sake big Boris can blow some more air into the energy grid like his cartoon hero Hurricane Harry but will no doubt blame the hurricane on climate change.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
exactly this

of course there is selfish idiots out there - but that doesn't excuse the fact our government have bodged this right up - and we know one of the main reasons - but aren't allowed to mention the B word.
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I mean, any system at any time will have a handful of dickheads and you should plan accordingly for that. But most people aren't "panic buying" because they're idiots or whatever, they're very reasonably looking at their quarter full tank and deciding to fill up if they can because they don't know when they'll get the chance to do so again and need their car to get to work. We operate a just in time system that doesn't have much slack to give, and it has had two major stresses over 18 months, one of them of our own choosing.
 
117 M34 said:
Todiy in the UK we have X number of hgv drivers.
If we had X +15,000 would the current situation be improved?
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Is that a rhetorical question. If we had 15,000 more doctors, 15,000 more police, 15,000 more nurses etc would the current situation be improved. I didn't vote for Brexit as I had a better understanding of the whole situation than many others. If you want to apportion blame look at those who blindly voted to leave. I know people who voted to leave on the toss of a coin or who voted to leave because it would be something new and different.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Cameron should never have put it to the people. It was an internal tory party row he thought he would fix by putting it a referendum. Anyway, once voted on the government should have managed it better than just letting this current bag of shit come in and take control if their party and simply refuse to negotiate on anything important. So it is the govts fault, from start to end including let two influential figures in it in Gove and Johnson play along in convincing the fucktards that 300m a month could go the NHS which are now selling off anyway.
Cunts
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The simplistic answer is that it had to go to referendum to shut everyone up and that includes the Libs and Labour party. Nobody, not even Johnson and Gove, thought that the public would be stupid enough to vote leave, not even sure Farage deep down believed it would happen. And because of this they thought they could say anything and it wouldn't matter. It's a bit like the Green party telling everyone how they would change the world, they can say that as they will never be in power in the next 50 years and beyond so what they say will never be scrutinized. But I will say again the British public voted to leave not the government.
 
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Eds said:
Is that a rhetorical question. If we had 15,000 more doctors, 15,000 more police, 15,000 more nurses etc would the current situation be improved. I didn't vote for Brexit as I had a better understanding of the whole situation than many others. If you want to apportion blame look at those who blindly voted to leave. I know people who voted to leave on the toss of a coin or who voted to leave because it would be something new and different.
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Only if they were licensed to drive petrol tankers...
 
Eds said:
The simplistic problem is that it had to go to referendum to shut everyone up and that includes the Libs and Labour party. Nobody, not even Johnson and Gove, thought that the public would be stupid enough to vote leave, not even sure Farage deep down believed it would happen. And because of this they thought they could say anything and it wouldn't matter. It's a bit like the Green party telling everyone how they would change the world, they can say that as they will never be in power in the next 50 years and beyond so what they say will never be scrutinized. But I will say again the British public voted to leave not the government.
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Farage lost his own career as a result of the leave vote winning!
 
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