Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

[KS55]

And they are off and running in the "Trash Newcastle Ownership Stakes". Our old friend McGeehan has fired the starting gun and the Whatsapp group are in the lead.....

Newcastle takeover exposes 'massive hypocrisy' on anti-discrimination policies, says Fair Square

Newcastle's takeover by Saudi Arabian owners has exposed the "massive hypocrisy" with regard to its anti-discrimination policies, says human rights organisation Fair Square.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[tregyblue61]

I was just about to post the above about our friend McGeehan. I'm still waiting for him to sound off about the "massive hypocrisy" over at the swamp. (Apologies if he already has done)

 

[Damanino]

I hope they go and spend 200m just in January to see the reaction of rag/scouser media and these sportwashing brigade who has no other thing to do than push this mantra day in day out...

 

[LongsightM13]

McGeehan ws a fucking zero, a glorified intern and a complete nobody in his field, until he and Delooney started their mutual ‘log rolling’ exercise - providing a shallow veneer of mutual credibility for their shared business model of slagging City

 

[Nihilist]

5 doesn’t go into 4.

But United have finished outside that 4, five times, in the last nine years; Liverpool have finished outside that 4, six times in the last eleven years; Chelsea have finished outside that 4, three times in the last nine years…

City have finished outside that 4, ZERO times, in the last eleven years; we have only finished outside the Top 2, twice, in the last ten years.

We’ve done that because we are the best run club.

Liverpool aren’t particularly well run, they’ve just got a great manager who’s been able to invest in the team in one go to build a good team once, and their board don’t invest in the team anymore. By next Summer, every one of their best players will be over 30, and they have no real strength in depth or succession plan for these players. That’s poor from them considering they have earnt £1.45bn in the last three years. Where the fuck the money goes at Liverpool is a mystery.

United are terribly ran. There are a dozen clubs better run than United. They’ve got no plan at all on the football side of things.

City and Chelsea are much better run than those two. That’s why you’ll get City and Chelsea fans welcoming new challenges from clubs like Newcastle being taken over and fans of Liverpool and United crying about it.

And we don’t yet know how well run Newcastle will be. They might not be particularly well run. They might make a lot of mistakes. There could be another club who does better than them. Everton could move to their new ground and attract more investment and do better than Newcastle. Having money is no guarantee of anything, QPR have the fourth biggest backers behind them in English football and they’re nowhere, SheffUtd have Saudi backers and they’re nowhere.

Thats true but we were also lucky to have Pep during half of that decade, and except for his 1st season when we finished 3rd, he never had us finish below 2nd place. If we didnt have Pep maybe we would have dropped out of top 4 a couple of times , with Pellegrini we finished 1st, then 2nd then 4th. Pep came just in time.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I was just about to post the above about our friend McGeehan. I'm still waiting for him to sound off about the "massive hypocrisy" over at the swamp. (Apologies if he already has done)

I loved this quote "where there is systematic discrimination against women, Shia Muslims, LGBTQ people and migrant workers." Apart from the qualification about Shia Muslims, he could just as easily be talking about this country or the USA.

Although the Daily Mail and its readers don't discriminate between Shia and Sunni here.

 

[waspish]

I hope they go and spend 200m just in January to see the reaction of rag/scouser media and these sportwashing brigade who has no other thing to do than push this mantra day in day out...

Rags be fine about it if they throw 50m of that 200m there way

 

[Blue Mist]

I know the Saudis murdered the journalist but have the Saudis ever kidnapped someone from one country against their will, flown them to another country and systematically tortured them ?

I know the USA with a lot of help from us have. We have such a lovely name for it, rendition, that Amnesty may not have realised what it meant and that we were doing it
Oh and at least one of the people we did it too was totally innocent, so much so we paid him millions on damages.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Saudi is a disgrace and should be removed from the game as soon as possible.

Relegation for Newcastle will do.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

So you don't believe that it has anything to do with them losing deals as a result of blowback from consulate incident?

The Saudis have been looking at investing in a football club for the last decade long before the murder of the journalist. They have to diversify their investments away from fossil fuels. Their wealth fund invests in all sorts of sectors as well as sport and leisure. The idea that their whole investment strategy is just a so-called "sportswashing" exercise is ludicrous.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The Saudis have been looking at investing in a football club for the last decade long before the murder of the journalist. They have to diversify their investments away from fossil fuels. Their wealth fund invests in all sorts of sectors as well as sport and leisure. The idea that their whole investment strategy is just a so-called "sportswashing" exercise is ludicrous.

Hardly. Your own post contains a reason why they might want to have a sportswashing beacon in English football.

If Newcastle United's value grew to ten times of the purchase price, it would still be worth less than 1% of the PIF.

 

[Blue Mist]

Saudi is a disgrace and should be removed from the game as soon as possible.

Relegation for Newcastle will do.

Why ?

 

[mexico1970]

Premier league to meet amnesty international, who is making these decisions?

 

[mcfcstu]

Premier league to meet amnesty international, who is making these decisions?

Do u really need to ask that question??

 

[Gordyola]

Thats true but we were also lucky to have Pep during half of that decade, and except for his 1st season when we finished 3rd, he never had us finish below 2nd place. If we didnt have Pep maybe we would have dropped out of top 4 a couple of times , with Pellegrini we finished 1st, then 2nd then 4th. Pep came just in time.

We weren’t lucky to have Pep it was planned Lets hope the vision extends post Pep, succession planning for all keys roles at the club is paramount

 

[Gordyola]

Hardly. Your own post contains a reason why they might want to have a sportswashing beacon in English football.

If Newcastle United's evalue grew to ten times of the purchase price, it would still be worth less than 1% of the PIF.

Sport washing a oxymoron a total contradiction If such a thing did exist beyond the imagination of the media and associated cronies then it’s a failed concept Let’s buy a PL football club, it’s only loose change for us after all, then everyone will love us and ignore the alleged wrong doings and breaches of human rights Well that worked

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Sport washing a oxymoron a total contradiction If such a thing did exist beyond the imagination of the media and associated cronies then it’s a failed concept Let’s buy a PL football club, it’s only loose change for us after all, then everyone will love us and ignore the alleged wrong doings and breaches of human rights Well that worked

Strawman.

As others have alluded the kingdom is transforming the structure of their economy to move away from reliance on petrochemicals.

With economic change, political change follows behind. But there will be a struggle between the establishment (leading members of the Royal family, traditional islamic/patriarchal elements) and feminists and civil liberty campaigners.

Too much political change and the House of Saud could lose their grip on power.

The sportswashing investment is smoke and mirrors PR to mask the crackdowns and push-backs against the activists and dissidents.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Strawman.

As others have alluded the kingdom is transforming the structure of their economy to move away from reliance on petrochemicals.

With economic change, political change follows behind. But there will be a struggle between the establishment (leading members of the Royal family, traditional islamic/patriarchal elements) and feminists and civil liberty campaigners.

Too much political change and the House of Saud could lose their grip on power.

The sportswashing investment is smoke and mirrors PR to mask the crackdowns and push-backs against the activists and dissidents.

You can't seriously believe that the Saudis think buying Newcastle will mask crackdowns on dissidents? I have a degree of sympathy with the anti-"Saudi in football" group in here but you really don't help yourself with that sort of rhetoric.

 

[Gordyola]

Strawman.

As others have alluded the kingdom is transforming the structure of their economy to move away from reliance on petrochemicals.

With economic change, political change follows behind. But there will be a struggle between the establishment (leading members of the Royal family, traditional islamic/patriarchal elements) and feminists and civil liberty campaigners.

Too much political change and the House of Saud could lose their grip on power.

The sportswashing investment is smoke and mirrors PR to mask the crackdowns and push-backs against the activists and dissidents.

“Sport washing” doesn’t work it’s achieves the opposite and if you think otherwise you must be part of the “what’s app group “

 

[eastmanc]

Sport washing a oxymoron a total contradiction If such a thing did exist beyond the imagination of the media and associated cronies then it’s a failed concept Let’s buy a PL football club, it’s only loose change for us after all, then everyone will love us and ignore the alleged wrong doings and breaches of human rights Well that worked

Sports-washing is a ridiculous term due to the bad publicity you get after buying a football club. If anything it’s the opposite as all of a sudden everything is scrutinised.