Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

[cleavers]

You don’t see this unless you sit a long way away.

Or sit in SS3, where you can't hear either section most of the time.

 

[WillT]

I was sat in the family stand yesterday, atmosphere was aweful, no one singing, people looking at you every time you shouted.

someone even told a bloke off for standing up when a chance was created as she couldn’t see.

god I miss Maine road, I miss the dirty gritty working mans ground we had, pissed up blokes swearing in front of kids and everyone singing. It was great. And great as a kid too! As that’s what football is about. Pure emotion

what’s changed ?
I think the prices, the younger generation can no longer afford to go to these games while working part time jobs/uni. They end up supporting a lower league club as it’s about £10 a game there plus beer is also reasonably priced.

I got told off for standing up and all, what a mood killer

 

[WillT]

I've been in the family stand for 11 years now and never seen it this bad, dirty looks when chanting etc

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

1894 don't dictate the songs that get sang though. We can try and start songs off, but there are plenty of loud lads in 115 who just start their own songs and because they're loud, people join in.

If you look at 1894's Instagram page, we've tried to get some songs that will spread better going - but it's not as easy as just starting off a new song and everyone joining in, unfortunately.

to be fair it doesn’t need to be new songs. Sing the classics. Rarely ever hear hey Jude or city til I die. I think the choice of song has a big impact on people joining in. (Don’t want to sound like a broken record)

 

[itsnevereasy]

I've been in the family stand for 11 years now and never seen it this bad, dirty looks when chanting etc

Chant even more then so they don’t come back! Used to do the family stand with my lad, he is 13 now and last night took him in the south stand for the first time. He loved it chanted / sang his little heart out and asked to never go back to the family stand….

A little of topic but why do we attack the family stand in the second half?

 

[jrb]

Chant even more then so they don’t come back! Used to do the family stand with my lad, he is 13 now and last night took him in the south stand for the first time. He loved it chanted / sang his little heart out and asked to never go back to the family stand….

A little of topic but why do we attack the family stand in the second half?

It’s the young Ultra’s section.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Or sit in SS3, where you can't hear either section most of the time.

That’s the acoustics problem I keep mentioning. Sound doesn’t travel backwards in the stadium. It drifts out into the middle of the bowl like Wembley. A sound expert could tell you more about why this happens but it does.

i remember once sitting on the lower tier in the east stand and I couldn’t believe it. You could see hundreds of fans clappping and chanting but literally could hear it.

 

[tizzerp]

A little of topic but why do we attack the family stand in the second half?

Not sure why and how long we have done it for. Has it always been the case? Aguero goal was that end. Has it always been the case since then and was it before?
I know the Wycombegame we swapped ends presumably because they won the toss

 

[Irlamblue]

i got the lift up to ss3 last night
got speaking to " students " ,one a laughing villa fan who told me his
student ticket was £12
mine was cheap being on the cup scheme but he still got in
£3 less than me

Lets hope he comes back for another game

 

[Corky]

Chant even more then so they don’t come back! Used to do the family stand with my lad, he is 13 now and last night took him in the south stand for the first time. He loved it chanted / sang his little heart out and asked to never go back to the family stand….

A little of topic but why do we attack the family stand in the second half?

We used to attack the North Stand last under keegan in particular as it was louder, not always the case but that was preferred.

We carried it on in the new stadium even though the fans were flipped.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Not sure why and how long we have done it for. Has it always been the case? Aguero goal was that end. Has it always been the case since then and was it before?
I know the Wycombegame we swapped ends presumably because they won the toss

It’s always been the case and I’ve struggled to work out why. I assume most teams who win the toss choose to take the kick off so the teams stay where they are and it’s always the same. I can only remember one game in recent years and I think it was Wycombe where it felt weird to be kicking the opposite way to normal. It’s not something I lay much attention to but as you say, it’s been every week for years that we kick north second half.

 

[LongsightM13]

Not sure why and how long we have done it for. Has it always been the case? Aguero goal was that end. Has it always been the case since then and was it before?
I know the Wycombegame we swapped ends presumably because they won the toss

The players have always preferred it that way since we moved in.
End if discussion

 

[Jesus2020]

It's possibly the same at grounds all over the country but my own personal experience [at city] of what has affected the atmosphere over lets say, the past 10 years or so, has been the commercialisation of football culture. The modern football fan is a commodity and as such can be molded into what our [I say our owners but I really mean the people who are trying to control football culture], think makes us more like consumers.

Trying to keep this as brief as I can, as consumers we create profit. As a commodity we can be controlled. As supporters we create atmosphere; in order to create atmosphere we need to be free, we can't be controlled. A good example of this is the spontaneous outburst of bluemoom at the start of a match vs the false, fake, created bluemoon that is bellowed out to us instead: they own the atmosphere because they own us, we're the commodity, and as such should be controlled and molded.

They will use football violence as a reason for this control. But I think it's an excuse to medicate us all because a few of us have what is often referred to as the English Disease. The matchday experience is no longer one where we can be free to express and indulge in what I would call terrace culture (and what others would ask to define in order to be pedantic purely for the sake of taking a counter argument). Instead we're supposed to be consumers.

The consumer, the molded commodity, is controlled. It is a part of the atmosphere that's created for it and it does as it's told. The supporter, when deviating from this ideal model, when creating its own atmosphere, becomes something that needs to be eradicated or subdued. We need to play our part in the created atmosphere or risk being secluded from it.

How do they eradicate us (terrace culture)? They ban us, have stewards tell us to sit down, be quiet, ban drinking in grounds, police us....etc, etc.... often under the guise of anti hooliganism. Which would be fair enough if that's all it were. But who defines hooliganism? And what if purely participating in a past tradition of being a supporter meant your behaviour was classed as hooliganism? Then, anything that didn't fit the mold of the desired consumer could be classed as anti social, criminal, hooligan.

And you would be banned.

So you do as you're told. And you consume. And the atmosphere you once created is now something you observe as an outsider.

 

[Gundog’s Gundog]

It's possibly the same at grounds all over the country but my own personal experience [at city] of what has affected the atmosphere over lets say, the past 10 years or so, has been the commercialisation of football culture. The modern football fan is a commodity and as such can be molded into what our [I say our owners but I really mean the people who are trying to control football culture], think makes us more like consumers.

Trying to keep this as brief as I can, as consumers we create profit. As a commodity we can be controlled. As supporters we create atmosphere; in order to create atmosphere we need to be free, we can't be controlled. A good example of this is the spontaneous outburst of bluemoom at the start of a match vs the false, fake, created bluemoon that is bellowed out to us instead: they own the atmosphere because they own us, we're the commodity, and as such should be controlled and molded.

They will use football violence as a reason for this control. But I think it's an excuse to medicate us all because a few of us have what is often referred to as the English Disease. The matchday experience is no longer one where we can be free to express and indulge in what I would call terrace culture (and what others would ask to define in order to be pedantic purely for the sake of taking a counter argument). Instead we're supposed to be consumers.

The consumer, the molded commodity, is controlled. It is a part of the atmosphere that's created for it and it does as it's told. The supporter, when deviating from this ideal model, when creating its own atmosphere, becomes something that needs to be eradicated or subdued. We need to play our part in the created atmosphere or risk being secluded from it.

How do they eradicate us (terrace culture)? They ban us, have stewards tell us to sit down, be quiet, ban drinking in grounds, police us....etc, etc.... often under the guise of anti hooliganism. Which would be fair enough if that's all it were. But who defines hooliganism? And what if purely participating in a past tradition of being a supporter meant your behaviour was classed as hooliganism? Then, anything that didn't fit the mold of the desired consumer could be classed as anti social, criminal, hooligan.

And you would be banned.

So you do as you're told. And you consume. And the atmosphere you once created is now something you observe as an outsider.

Marvellous comments man. Agree with every word. They’ve sanitised the fun out of it.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Speak with your £, because talk is cheap!

I think there is a significant reach being attempted, as if there are bad actors on the other side trying to ruin your enjoyment. That’s simply not true. Rather, the world has moved on. All seater stadiums are only now being slowly reversed. The media saturation of football is also considerably different and it is the product in the field that has been elevated, and the TV revenue that backs it, that has changed dramatically….for the better!

 

[Jesus2020]

Marvellous comments man. Agree with every word. They’ve sanitised the fun out of it.

Thanks. About 10yrs ago I was ejected from the ground, harassed by police outside the ground, arrested and went to court. Had my ticket taken for next game that I'd bought at the ground. Big game too. Not cheap. They said I was a hooligan. I asked them to define that. When they did I explained that what they were describing was the behaviour of thousands of other fans on that same day, and weeks and years before. What they were describing was a culture.

Been interested in it ever since.

 

[DenisHasDoneIt]

It's possibly the same at grounds all over the country but my own personal experience [at city] of what has affected the atmosphere over lets say, the past 10 years or so, has been the commercialisation of football culture. The modern football fan is a commodity and as such can be molded into what our [I say our owners but I really mean the people who are trying to control football culture], think makes us more like consumers.

Trying to keep this as brief as I can, as consumers we create profit. As a commodity we can be controlled. As supporters we create atmosphere; in order to create atmosphere we need to be free, we can't be controlled. A good example of this is the spontaneous outburst of bluemoom at the start of a match vs the false, fake, created bluemoon that is bellowed out to us instead: they own the atmosphere because they own us, we're the commodity, and as such should be controlled and molded.

They will use football violence as a reason for this control. But I think it's an excuse to medicate us all because a few of us have what is often referred to as the English Disease. The matchday experience is no longer one where we can be free to express and indulge in what I would call terrace culture (and what others would ask to define in order to be pedantic purely for the sake of taking a counter argument). Instead we're supposed to be consumers.

The consumer, the molded commodity, is controlled. It is a part of the atmosphere that's created for it and it does as it's told. The supporter, when deviating from this ideal model, when creating its own atmosphere, becomes something that needs to be eradicated or subdued. We need to play our part in the created atmosphere or risk being secluded from it.

How do they eradicate us (terrace culture)? They ban us, have stewards tell us to sit down, be quiet, ban drinking in grounds, police us....etc, etc.... often under the guise of anti hooliganism. Which would be fair enough if that's all it were. But who defines hooliganism? And what if purely participating in a past tradition of being a supporter meant your behaviour was classed as hooliganism? Then, anything that didn't fit the mold of the desired consumer could be classed as anti social, criminal, hooligan.

And you would be banned.

So you do as you're told. And you consume. And the atmosphere you once created is now something you observe as an outsider.

Like this again and again.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Ex SS1 now SS3 just on the edge of the standing group which sadly doesn't quite extend to where I am.

We make some noise up there but not enough generally over the full level of the stand. It's very rare that any noise can be heard from the two bottom tiers.

But what pisses me off is fans moaning about no singing or atmosphere & then when there is singing moaning it's the wrong songs the Dezko/burn your club songs immediately spring to mind ...how about investing in learning the words to Dezko (a song celebrating winning the title a few years ago), you thought you'd won the league at Sunderland, my father said to me etc instead of hoping someone who is trying to get the atmosphere going will sing bluemoon, CTID or the timeless classic City City City.

Don't knock the 5-10% of fans trying to get it going.

I'm fully aware it's difficult in certain parts of the ground to be even vocal but if your desperate to join in relocate. CB3/ES3 are never going to be full of the sort of people who are going to burst into song.

 

[ytic04]

What are your thoughts on 1894s display pre-match yesterday?

For me a bit panto-esque but it raised the atmosphere and the kids loved it.
Doing it to music makes it a stand alone item whereas playing a city song would enable everyone to engage with it more.
Not sure if you can but timing it with the players coming out would be a lot better also.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The players have always preferred it that way since we moved in.
End if discussion

Sorry to be pedantic mate but we only get the choice 50% of the time!