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Suspect the allegations of sleaze will continue to haunt this government. These are predominantly ageing white men who will now recognise that their time as parliamentarIans is drawing to its natural close, so it’s time to exploit their positions and feather their nests for life before the Lords. All of this before next year’s public inquiry, when there will inevitably be more damaging revelations. Against such a background, it would be terribly difficult for any government to shed such a label, and the longer this one serves, the more tired the public will become of it.
 
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Suspect the allegations of sleaze will continue to haunt this government. These are predominantly ageing white men who will now recognise that their time as parliamentarIans is drawing to its natural close, so it’s time to exploit their positions and feather their nests for life before the Lords. All of this before next year’s public inquiry, when there will inevitably be more damaging revelations. Against such a background, it would be terribly difficult for any government to shed such a label, and the longer this one serves, the more tired the public will become of it.
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Another Conservative Government going down in flames over sleaze ........ caught again trousering the public purse. Will the general public ever learn?
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
You've got to hand it to the Tories

265 MPs vote to dump raw sewage in our waters. Public outrage goes through the roof, a few days later 283 MPs vote to dump sewage in our waters again.

They are not listening to us , they are laughing at us.
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Who would have thought that an essential utility could be sold off to the highest bidder? And, when there‘s a point that they may lose profits, they are allowed to take the easy, cheaper route and stick 2 fingers up to us and the environment.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Another Conservative Government going down in flames over sleaze ........ caught again trousering the public purse. Will the general public ever learn?
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I doubt it will go down in flames, just a slow, smouldering death. It’s not an exclusively Conservative problem, of course, as history shows that all parties’ members find temptation impossible to resist. It just so happens that the more recent examples have involved the Tories. One could reasonably argue that the voting system enables too many members to become ensconced in Parliament and that it actually encourages a system of corruption, but the general public wasn’t too keen on that lesson. :-)
 
No period has seen this level of corruption, it dwarfs all that's gone before, despite the msm white-washing. "Sleaze" trvialises criminal acts, just as "buffoon" diminishes johnson's guilt.
"It just so happens", a phrase that is used to normalise the situation, to prolong the view that "they're all at it" so we just carry on, "nothing to see here". And why not, it's always worked before apart from the end of the two wars.
Peterloo, the corn laws Windrush Hillsborough Grenfell , the scandal of the lack of emergency supplies to fight covid Too many to list, but nobody to blame. Let alone punished. It just so happens, all tory deeds.
All we need to do is accept that democracy means "by the rich for the rich", not some fantasy involving honesty and integrity backed by accountability, and the job's a goodun.....
 
Boris' paper have lost the fucking plot this morning. Blaming Tory corruption on a blairite left wing elite who they claim have been doing it for the past 11 years.
 
Just watching Politics Live - typically no Tory MP has dared come in so they have to rely on a pro-Tory "commentator" - she is bluffing and lying so David Blunkett just put her right - its odd to see a blind man stare someone down but he is clearly angered
 
You just shouldn't be allowed to have a "second job" if you are an MP. People voted for them to represent them and that should be a full time job not a little part time gig where they get to choose when to turn up to parliament and then go abuse their position to cash in lobbying.

They are already very well compensated and add on the expenses and other perks they get and I see no reason at all why they should be allowed to get other jobs. The whole apple is rotten to the core and a serious shake up is needed in British politics.
 
babyape said:
www.theguardian.com

Raab defends Geoffrey Cox for working from Caribbean in lockdown

Ex-attorney general earned £400,000 a year advising tax haven over corruption charges
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Raab out defending everyone today....
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Sir Geoffrey Cox, tireless defender of tax haven against the Foreign Office

The ex-attorney general has spent months at a corruption inquiry – acting not for a UK constituent but the PM of the British Virgin Islands
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"The UK taxpayer pays the core cost of the inquiry."
 
RandomJ said:
You just shouldn't be allowed to have a "second job" if you are an MP. People voted for them to represent them and that should be a full time job not a little part time gig where they get to choose when to turn up to parliament and then go abuse their position to cash in lobbying.

They are already very well compensated and add on the expenses and other perks they get and I see no reason at all why they should be allowed to get other jobs. The whole apple is rotten to the core and a serious shake up is needed in British politics.
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Exactly - if your MP gets £400k for his/her side hustle and £80k for being your MP which job is really the side hustle? Plenty of their constituents have second jobs though - the reason for that being is to pay the rent or clothe the kids or just to buy food and thats what these MP's don't get as they are so far removed from reality
 
RandomJ said:
You just shouldn't be allowed to have a "second job" if you are an MP. People voted for them to represent them and that should be a full time job not a little part time gig where they get to choose when to turn up to parliament and then go abuse their position to cash in lobbying.

They are already very well compensated and add on the expenses and other perks they get and I see no reason at all why they should be allowed to get other jobs. The whole apple is rotten to the core and a serious shake up is needed in British politics.
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One is a hospital dr that worked through the pandemic , that is the only second job that should be allowed
 
RandomJ said:
You just shouldn't be allowed to have a "second job" if you are an MP. People voted for them to represent them and that should be a full time job not a little part time gig where they get to choose when to turn up to parliament and then go abuse their position to cash in lobbying.

They are already very well compensated and add on the expenses and other perks they get and I see no reason at all why they should be allowed to get other jobs. The whole apple is rotten to the core and a serious shake up is needed in British politics.
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I think that the tories who represent well-to-do southern constituencies which require little maintenance will be ok simply because most of their voters either don’t care or can’t see a problem, and don’t usually make demands on their mp’s time.
They will vote tory whatever.
Those who have so-called ‘red wall’ seats must be squirming now though. Their bosses would do well to remember where a lot of their parliamentary majority comes from.
It will come to a point where the northern voters finally work out that an increase in the number of food banks is not any form of ‘levelling up’.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
I think that the tories who represent well-to-do southern constituencies which require little maintenance will be ok simply because most of their voters either don’t care or can’t see a problem, and don’t usually make demands on their mp’s time.
They will vote tory whatever.
Those who have so-called ‘red wall’ seats must be squirming now though. Their bosses would do well to remember where a lot of their parliamentary majority comes from.
It will come to a point where the northern voters finally work out that an increase in the number of food banks is not any form of ‘levelling up’.
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Having had some dealings with local MPs, I am not sure if this is the case. Middle class people often know what buttons to press to get their own way, so they often use MPs to support them in disputes with the likes of the local council and health service. For example, those relating to planning enforcement and traffic issues. The white, retired, middle class are relentless. I have experience of these exchanges.
 
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