Raheem Sterling | Joins Chelsea for £50m

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That was my point mate.
Yeah was agreeing hah. I think your right, we do offer a contract because we have to protect our investment but if nothing happens in Jan then I think a summer exit will happen. We will need to know whats happening.
 
We of all fans should realise its possible to attract players when we too did't initially look an attractive prospect. Newcastle also have a PL title in their not too distant history. If we did it so too can they.

Robinho, tevez, silva, toure, aguero, etc etc etc.

i think manchester city was the last club with no rules in spending and signing players until FFP ?
the book is now closed because the so called elite clubs fear personal wealth. but we have seen Leicester city doing it with a middle of the road investment and no marquee signings so never say never.

newcastle have to be very clever if they want to play with the big boys and spend money.
look at it as a long term project and invest in youth build new stands or a new stadium of 65.000 or more.

but because of poor management and chairman the biggest investment will be in staying up and short term.
this will kill them for me because if they spend £200million or more right now then FFP will be watching and the gap in revenue and spending will need to be in place and newcastle will have their hands tied
 
We of all fans should realise its possible to attract players when we too did't initially look an attractive prospect. Newcastle also have a PL title in their not too distant history. If we did it so too can they.

Robinho, tevez, silva, toure, aguero, etc etc etc.
Eh?!!! Their last league title was in 1926/27. That was 95 years ago
 
Nothing you say there backs up your original post where you said he'd been shit for 2 years.
Is he poor now? Yes. Does he need to move on? Yes. Has he been terrible for 2 years? No.
That’s a matter of opinion, but if I’m wrong on the time frame then fair enough. Maybe due to the frustrations of watching Sterling recently feels like 2 years.
 
Hes on about 200k flat wage. Most of the bigger contracts were moved to incentive heavier when he signed the last deal.
Speaking generally, you'll find that full contracts include bonuses, loyalty payments etc on top of the 'flat wage'. These provide an incentive for players to stay at the club and not ask for a transfer.
If we sell a player without them putting in a request, normal practice would be to pay or negotiate an amount to compensate for bonuses etc.
I think you'd find that the average weekly figure over Raheem's full contract would be a lot closer to £350k than £200k.
Either way, it's a ridiculous amount, particularly for a player who has done very little over this season to justify getting even £350.00 a week.
 
Speaking generally, you'll find that full contracts include bonuses, loyalty payments etc on top of the 'flat wage'. These provide an incentive for players to stay at the club and not ask for a transfer.
If we sell a player without them putting in a request, normal practice would be to pay or negotiate an amount to compensate for bonuses etc.
I think you'd find that the average weekly figure over Raheem's full contract would be a lot closer to £350k than £200k.
Either way, it's a ridiculous amount, particularly for a player who has done very little over this season to justify getting even £350.00 a week.
prob was when he was getting goal bonuses and stuff, barely get his apperance fee at the min lol. :)
 
My mistake...for some reason i always mix up rovers and newcastle. Probs cos shearer played for both around that time.

The point about them being able to sign marquee players still stands though. If we did it so too can they.
A lot of players will be tempted by the project but Eddie Howe is not the high profile manager to bring players in .
 
A lot of players will be tempted by the project but Eddie Howe is not the high profile manager to bring players in .
Before Newcastle can tempt decent players to support their project, they really need to start climbing the table. Be a big gamble to go there now in case they cannot turn it around this season
 
I saw there was there some talk of a swap for Frankie de Jong a couple of weeks ago , is that still on the cards,and if so ,is FdJ would it be a reasonable deal? Can't say I've seen him that I remember, and don't trust YouTube, as I could look good on that,and I'm knocking on a bit and three stone over weight.
Frenkie :)

Great username by the way.
 
Before Newcastle can tempt decent players to support their project, they really need to start climbing the table. Be a big gamble to go there now in case they cannot turn it around this season
Who would you bring as players to keep them up mate . I’d be looking at short term tried and tested premier league fighters such as Johnny Evans who would do a job for them and James Milner . And they need more bite in midfield .
 
I mean that's just conspiracy nonsense isn't it? The kind of baseless shit you get frustrated that people throw at City.

You're claiming half the clubs in Europe are in cahoots with Chelsea to fuck over FFP against their own interests, because it's not like they sell to a few select clubs, they'll sell to anyone.
I said it's not beyond the realms of possibility, not that it's a given fact. But look at the investigation into Juve's transfer dealings, including the Cancelo/Danilo swap. We paid £27m and got rid of a player at potentially a higher valuation than we might have got in a straight cash deal. That suited us just as well but Juve (and others) we're doing this consistently to boost their bottom line.

We use profit on sale to turn a small loss into a small profit but Chelsea might well have failed FFP had huge transfer profits not wiped out significant losses.

And how many times have we read about kickbacks to managers, agents and family members as part of transfers? It's not really a huge leap to imagine kickbacks to clubs is it?
 
I said it's not beyond the realms of possibility, not that it's a given fact. But look at the investigation into Juve's transfer dealings, including the Cancelo/Danilo swap. We paid £27m and got rid of a player at potentially a higher valuation than we might have got in a straight cash deal. That suited us just as well but Juve (and others) we're doing this consistently to boost their bottom line.

We use profit on sale to turn a small loss into a small profit but Chelsea might well have failed FFP had huge transfer profits not wiped out significant losses.

And how many times have we read about kickbacks to managers, agents and family members as part of transfers? It's not really a huge leap to imagine kickbacks to clubs is it?

Actually, I think it is beyond the realms of possibility that Abramovic is personally paying people to buy Chelsea players for an inflated price.
 
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