Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Good grief. Some of the £37bn on our "World-beating" (not) test and trace would have been better spent on vaccines for poor countries.

In some of these countries it’s not the supply that’s the issue, people don’t want them. There is a lot of scepticism in places like Africa due to things that have happened in the past with medication that has been given to them.
 



but hospitalizations are going down!
COVID hospitalisations are going down but not everyone in hospital has COVID. Historically the hospitals get smashed every winter for many reasons that aren't COVID.

Even a small number of COVID admissions in the winter could be more serious than for example a much bigger number of COVID hospitalisations in the summer.

I'm not in favour of lockdowns but certainly in the winter and with this new variant things might change where we might have no choice. With Delta that's what's happening in Germany, Austria etc, they just don't have the capacity to cope with a normal winter plus a large case influx.
 
Now, yes,so all good we don't yet know what impact the new variant will have. So we need to watch carefully and try and stay ahead of the curve not wait until crisis hits
i think people are more bothered about how far the gov will take it from mask wearing and then what comes next! its not made a jot in scotland and wales as their case figures are worse than england ! if people want to wear masks they should get ones that actually protect themselves instead of the paper ones that litter the pavements up and down the country!
 
i think people are more bothered about how far the gov will take it from mask wearing and then what comes next! its not made a jot in scotland and wales as their case figures are worse than england ! if people want to wear masks they should get ones that actually protect themselves instead of the paper ones that litter the pavements up and down the country!
Scotlands case numbers are not worse than England and for the last few months have been about half Englands.
 
COVID hospitalisations are going down but not everyone in hospital has COVID. Historically the hospitals get smashed every winter for many reasons that aren't COVID.

Even a small number of COVID admissions in the winter could be more serious than for example a much bigger number of COVID hospitalisations in the summer.

I'm not in favour of lockdowns but certainly in the winter and with this new variant things might change where we might have no choice. With Delta that's what's happening in Germany, Austria etc, they just don't have the capacity to cope with a normal winter plus a large case influx.
believe it or not my wife is a sister in icu / covid ward my biggest worry is that most of the icu staff on her ward have left ! taken pay cuts and moved to other nhs jobs! another one is doing his hgv this winter because he is getting sacked in march for not being jabbed ! my biggest fear is that the staff that are left wont be qualified to treat people in intensive care for other things !
 
more people live in england
Yes, Scotland as a population should be at about 10% of Englands cases they are at about 6%.when England was getting over 40,000 caes Scotland weas 2-3000 It may not be just masks but as wearing a mask is no hardship at all even if it's only a part of the lower numbers then just do it.
 
All the variants so far have been roughly as potent as each other so the likelihood is that the new variant will have similar potency. It may not of course:
Yeah it's extremely early days still as far as the age of COVID so it's definitely going to be potent no matter what.

Also evolution is random so we could feasibly get a worse strain here and there, it should be said. But that's usually less likely.

But hopefully in the years to come it takes a chill pill. The reason I've pointed out it came from bats is to emphasise the fact that an environmental change will likely be a bigger factor than we'd have seen with most other viruses.
 
believe it or not my wife is a sister in icu / covid ward my biggest worry is that most of the icu staff on her ward have left ! taken pay cuts and moved to other nhs jobs! another one is doing his hgv this winter because he is getting sacked in march for not being jabbed ! my biggest fear is that the staff that are left wont be qualified to treat people in intensive care for other things !
Your wife has a colleague who works in ICU and doesn't want to be vaccinated?!

The prick deserves to be sacked.
 


Bit of indepth reading on the whole "Virus's become less deadly". All in all, no guarantees.

Regardless of what direction the virus is going in, it's still enough of a problem right now and in the short term that we would massively benefit from playing it as safe as we realistically can.
 
on average they are worse!

For Scotland not.

Wales is a little worse, Scotland is better.

From a random selection of data in the ( mid week from about 2 weeks ago so all data should be processed ).

Per million

Wales = 750 - 850 cases per million.
England = 650 - 690 cases per million.
Scotland = 550 - 600 cases per million
 
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