F1 Season 2021

[Kiss this guy]

Typical answer you get when you question anybody who doesnt like Lewis.

You dig a bit further and they usually go into how ''flash'' he is or how he advocates for climate change but flies in a jet, or how he's "up his own arse''

I'd rather they just outright say they don't like him because he's a self made, rich, extremely talented Black man who happens to be a vegan and puts far more back into the world than they ever do.

They'd still come across as a thick racist but at least they'd be an honest thick racist.

Lording it up in Monaco and not paying UK income tax are the other bingo card quotes they come out with.

 

[BlueMoonday]

If max overtook Hamilton with the safety car does it matter if lewis takes it back

No but trying to be realistic in terms of how the FIA are likely to respond.

It was "WWE" shit from the FIA today.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

That would be different - there would be factual evidence and the race finished, and both were under the same understanding.

This would be like calling it where they were 100 yards short of the finish line.

Well yeah, but my point was that if someone is wrongly awarded a win for whatever reason, the fact that they didn't personally cheat is irrelevant in deciding whether the award stands. It might be relevant in deciding how it's dealt with and who pays up if any compensation is forthcoming, of course.

 

[willipp]

Never said it wasn't. But who do you penalise? Someone has to win it.

In those circumstances you want the driver who was the best on the day to win it. Clearly the FIA wanted different.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Just showing Max overtaking Hamilton under safety car conditions.

I haven’t re watched it, was it clear ?

 

[Blueknows]

Typical answer you get when you question anybody who doesnt like Lewis.

You dig a bit further and they usually go into how ''flash'' he is or how he advocates for climate change but flies in a jet, or how he's "up his own arse''

I'd rather they just outright say they don't like him because he's a self made, rich, extremely talented Black man who happens to be a vegan and puts far more back into the world than they ever do.

They'd still come across as a thick racist but at least they'd be an honest thick racist.

Lol so you're calling me a thick racist because I don't like someone heard it all now

 

[creditunionhero]

Never said it wasn't. But who do you penalise? Someone has to win it.

You apply the rules, no one is penalised.

 

[waspish]

Blows my fucking mind that after 57 laps, and Hamilton leading by 11/12 seconds, that they're allowed to start side by side for a one lap shootout.

And one has running trainers on the other slippers.

 

[Metal Biker]

In those circumstances you want the driver who was the best on the day to win it. Clearly the FIA wanted different.

The FIA just wants to herald in the 'new era' of drivers with Verstappen leading the way.

They were thinking of their brand today, clearly.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Well yeah, but my point was that if someone is wrongly awarded a win for whatever reason, the fact that they didn't personally cheat is irrelevant in deciding whether the award stands. It might be relevant in deciding how it's dealt with and who pays up if any compensation is forthcoming, of course.

It's messy!

It's the fact that there was a referee who instructed how it worked. It's not just competitors and a clock.

There is no fair resolution to the Masi decision that is fair to both drivers.

 

[I'm Blue]

Never said it wasn't. But who do you penalise? Someone has to win it. Do we invalidate the entire race result as void?

You don’t penalise the guy at that front with 5 cars in between him and his closest rival that’s for sure… oh wait they did.

 

[bluemoon32]

Well done Max

 

[Metal Biker]

You apply the rules, no one is penalised.

But the race result has Verstappen as the race victor. We all know what should have been applied, but it wasn't. Now we have the result that we do and that has decided a championship. Whatever the verdict, someone is going to be justifiably pissed off.

 

[Metal Biker]

You don’t penalise the guy at that front with 5 cars in between him and his closest rival that’s for sure… oh wait they did.

Yeah, they did. The fairest thing to do would be invalidate the entire race and not award anyone the win.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

It's messy!

It's the fact that there was a referee who instructed how it worked. It's not just competitors and a clock.

There is no fair resolution to the Masi decision that is fair to both drivers.

Agreed. It's not fair that Hamilton was overtaken seemingly illegally, but it's also not fair that Verstappen wasn't given the chance to do so legally because of inept refereeing.

 

[Metal Biker]

It's messy!

It's the fact that there was a referee who instructed how it worked. It's not just competitors and a clock.

There is no fair resolution to the Masi decision that is fair to both drivers.

Ahhh a fellow voice of reason.

 

[hello]

Lewis got the better of the Max overtaking effort at the start of the race. Max got the benefit but that call virtually decided the race with the far newer tyres and no chance for Lewis to recover.

It’s easy to say in hindsight but Masi should have red flagged the race with the 5 or so laps to go. Then both drivers could have fought out the title on fresh sets of tyres.

That would have been semi ethical a least still a huge advantage to max

 

[I'm Blue]

Yeah, they did. The fairest thing to do would be invalidate the entire race and not award anyone the win.

How’s that fair?
If they applied the rules correctly then Hamilton gets a deserved win.

 

[discopop]

Yeah, they did. The fairest thing to do would be invalidate the entire race and not award anyone the win.

And then Max wins by more race wins? Hardly fair, they should swap it or completely invalidate the Drivers Championship for this season

 

[Metal Biker]

It all reminds me so much of 1989.