F1 Season 2021

[LWashington]

Still makes it a baffling decision to let them unlap up to Verstappen, unless they wanted to hand him a massive, unfair advantage.

Yes, that's what I was getting at. Any in that case clearly means all. Any depends on the words around it. The "will be required "makes it all.
Compare "Any parent with a child on the trip will be required to attend the meeting." ALL
to "Any parent with a child on the trip is welcome to attend the meeting." SOME/ OPTIONAL

I watched F1 from 1975 to 1995 then lost interest. Today I watched it for the first time in over 25 years and I won't be watching it again. I don't agree with removing the lapped cars and even worse removing any time gap. I don't follow either driver and just wanted to see a good, fair race.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Same Masi who 5 minutes earlier said they can't unlap, utterly bent.

Before he got his instructions

 

[hello]

Same Masi who 5 minutes earlier said they can't unlap, utterly bent.

But 3 minutes earlier Horner told him he needs to unlap to allow 1 lap race

 

[Paladin]

10 people had already said why he couldn't put in the previous few laps.

If anyone ever asks a question in any thread, I'll go out of my way to answer, that's not what this was, it was stating nonsense with authority.

No they hadn't. I've checked. These are the closest references I found, with the thread post numbers added by me.

3771. Can Lewis pit?

3781. Why don’t Hamilton come in to get soft tires?

4001. Part blame for Mercedes bottling a safety car pit stop.

(A reasonable assumption).

4007. You should really say nothing if you don't know what you're talking about.

(Your reply to post 4001).

4067. Hamilton should of pitted as soon as max did to me is seemed like the thing to do.

4079. Impossible. Lewis would have to do another lap before pitting. The VSC ended before he could do that and he’d have lost track position under the SC.

Two people had previously asked a similar question, but they hadn't had a reply. The first explanation came at post number 4079.

Now I, and many others appreciate your knowledge on many topics, and we value the insight you bring to us. But please be a bit more respectful to those less informed than you.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Ah I interpreted competing as competing for championships. And yeah it's an expensive sport to compete in so that's how it works.

You couldn't have a relegation and promotion system in F1. Imagine how complicated it would be when you get relegated to F2 and you have to fire 300 people!

I’ve a feeling that‘s the way it will go, commercialise the sport.

 

[Zinchilla]

I don’t think it is a hollow victory for Max. I think if you look at the full season it would be hard to claim that Max is not a deserving winner overall. He didn’t actually do anything wrong either. He took advantage of a situation that never should have happened.

However, despite Max’s brilliance at times this season, Lewis fought back and went into the final race in a winner takes all scenario. Again, I don’t think anyone could argue that Lewis did not deserve to win that race today.

The reality of the situation is that the race director abandoned sporting integrity for entertainment. The fact Mercedes protests have been rejected shows that it’s an acceptable thing in F1.

It does beg the question of whether this happens in other sports. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if referees in football are told to give favourable decisions to sides to make the PL exciting. When we pipped Liverpool to the league a few seasons ago, they had many dodgy decisions in their favour which kept the title race going.

If you take the race today out of the equation then yes, Verstappen deserved the title as he won more races coming into the final round. But Hamilton should’ve won today - if it was a level playing field - so it makes the race today a hollow victory. Would say the same if it was the other way round.

I think this touches a raw nerve for me because I do think City are judged differently so yes, with so much money at stake and rights holder influence then it can/does happen elsewhere. Invitation only super league for example, starring that well known championship winning team Tottenham Hotspur out of London, near Paris, England! That was only dreamt up because they thought they could make a shed load of broadcasting money out of it. As we know, fuck all to do with sporting merit.

 

[domalino]

No they hadn't. I've checked. These are the closest references I found, with the thread post numbers added by me.







(A reasonable assumption).



(Your reply to post 4001).





Two people had previously asked a similar question, but they hadn't had a reply. The first explanation came at post number 4079.

Now I, and many others appreciate your knowledge on many topics, and we value the insight you bring to us. But please be a bit more respectful to those less informed than you.

Go to page 371-376 and read through a few pages and you'll see loads of posters asking the question and getting it answered.

And I'll refer you to this part of my reply to you -

If anyone ever asks a question in any thread, I'll go out of my way to answer, that's not what this was, it was stating nonsense with authority.

 

[meltonblue]

Thing is, this was so clearly manufactured, I’m not sure it is going to attract anyone on the grounds of entertainment anyway, there still has to be an element of integrity and the notion of a level playing ground.

 

[crooky]

I’ve a feeling that‘s the way it will go, commercialise the sport.

Nah that would never ever work. Think how big an F1 team is and how many people they need working there, the facilities they need etc.

In Formula 2 the teams produce none of the car. Every car on the grid is identical and essentially bought 'off the shelf'. Their only job is to maintain the cars they've bought and get to the races.

For a big team in F1 like Ferrari they buy some of their parts like the ECU. (standardized part made by Mclaren) But the vast majority of their parts they have to painstakingly craft to that years regulations. That's all the front wings, rear wings and everything in between which are incredibly intricate these days. The gearbox, turbo, exhaust, clutch, engine etc as well. All that has to be tested as well so you need engine benches, wind tunnels etc as well.

I'm probably only scratching the surface but what the teams do especially the ones who do the complete package of chassis and engine (Ferrari, Mercedes and soon Red Bull) is incredibly labour intensive and requires a hell of a lot of specialist workers as well.

 

[BlueMojito]

I never normally watch F1 but watched the race today. What a shambles. Makes VAR look professional.

 

[ancoats]

Max was pretty much guaranteed 5 secs on that one lap race and they removed all traffic (lapped cars) in front of him that Hamilton had to fight to overtake and none behind him

Which would have unethical but at least moral compared to the shitshow we got

i think the red flag and stopping the race is better than a safety car and teams getting away with a free pit stop because of what part of the courses you are at and if you just gone past the pitlane. also the race is just clocking off laps at slow speeds with a safety car

 

[ancoats]

most sporting bodies/officials/tv companies take the piss out of the tv fans and think most are think as pig shit ? because they believe they know nothing about the sport. so just about anything goes to make it good tv and want talking points in after posts shows and media forum boards

please can we have our sports back from major tv companies controlling the results and picking the winner.
let proper sport happen with lady luck waving her magic wand. the sports governing bodies want to hang their heads in shame allowing their sports to be controlled by tv

and yes i am think as pig shit myself

 

[Manc in London]

That was a very odd thing to do. I wouldnt put it pass RB to have had a word

Good to hear it wasn't just me.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Before he got his instructions

From Liberty, it’s the entertainment that matters.

This was decided when they took over, nothing more.

Reminds me of Johnson getting crowned, just a fuck up in waiting.

 

[SWP's back]

Carabao >>>>> Red Bull

 

[Kiss this guy]

I'll give it next season, if it's still fucked up I'm out.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Red Bull, they'll give you wins

 

[mccity]

I must admit I didn't like the conclusion nor means of it, but I've enjoyed the racing for much of the season, barring a few extremely boring races.

 

[Paladin]

Go to page 371-376 and read through a few pages and you'll see loads of posters asking the question and getting it answered.

And I'll refer you to this part of my reply to you -

If anyone ever asks a question in any thread, I'll go out of my way to answer, that's not what this was, it was stating nonsense with authority.

I've checked pages 371 to 376. These posts were made at the time when the Virtual Safety Car was deployed, around lap 42. Some people asked why Hamilton didn't pit during the VSC, and there were a few replies. (But not 10, as you said there were).

The opinion you responded to so inappropriately was not about the VSC, it was about Hamilton's failure to take a pit stop during the incident much later, when the actual Safety Car was utilised. The poster specifically mentioned the Safety Car, not the Virtual Safety Car. This was a valid point being made at a different stage of the race. Maybe you didn't realise the poster was talking about the current incident, but thought he was still talking about an incident that occurred 10 laps further back.

In my reply to you, I did refer to the second part of your original response. I said that we appreciate your knowledge and insight. But to clarify further, I disagree that the poster was "stating nonsense with authority". He was merely giving an opinion, which when all said and done, is what a forum is for, isn't it?

 

[The blue phantom]

Good old Martin knows the score, he's ripped them.apart here.

MARTIN SAMUEL: Verstappen's triumph in Abu Dhabi was a STOLEN title

MARTIN SAMUEL: It was billed as Formula 1's greatest climax. So F1 gave the world what it wanted. Yet, in doing so, the sport appeared to reverse over the concept of fairness.

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