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Love this bit:

“Harris [Merc’s barrister for the appeals] represented Manchester City against UEFA at the Court of Arbitration for Sport. For a City supporter, as he is, that was something of a late away win. This, it is fair to say, must have felt like losing to a 90th-minute offside winner at Old Trafford, punched into the net by the Manchester United centre forward, while the referee was unconscious, having been knocked over while tying his boot laces, and facing the wrong way. He wakes up, gives the goal, then immediately blows the final whistle.”
 
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Love this bit:

“Harris [Merc’a barrister for the appeals] represented Manchester City against UEFA at the Court of Arbitration for Sport. For a City supporter, as he is, that was something of a late away win. This, it is fair to say, must have felt like losing to a 90th-minute offside winner at Old Trafford, punched into the net by the Manchester United centre forward, while the referee was unconscious, having been knocked over while tying his boot laces, and facing the wrong way. He wakes up, gives the goal, then immediately blows the final whistle.”
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Me too and this just about sums the whole thing up for me...

"In Abu Dhabi, Formula One crossed the divide between competition and the reality shows."
 
Bent as.

On top of all the bull shit decisions made by Horner and implemented by Masi, what hasn't really been mentioned is Sainz.

Had they removed the lapped cars between Verstappen and Sainz, and had enough time to restart, he could have pressured Verstappen who might not have got anywhere near Hamilton.

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The leader of a race should never be penalised under a safety car. Unfortunately the worst place to be in this situation in front. I'd make the rules no pit stops under a SC and the distances should be kept steady like they are under a virtual safety car. A 12 second lead reduced to fuck all because some muppet hits the wall should never benefit someone who is not leading the race!
 
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The blue phantom said:
Good old Martin knows the score, he's ripped them.apart here.

www.dailymail.co.uk

MARTIN SAMUEL: Verstappen's triumph in Abu Dhabi was a STOLEN title

MARTIN SAMUEL: It was billed as Formula 1's greatest climax. So F1 gave the world what it wanted. Yet, in doing so, the sport appeared to reverse over the concept of fairness.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Courts of appeal deciding the outcome of sporting events?

Ricky Tomlinson is either playing to his audience or clueless. It was established in 1994 that this will never happen no matter how incompetent the ref.
 
trumpton said:
Bent as.

On top of all the bull shit decisions made by Horner and implemented by Masi, what hasn't really been mentioned is Sainz.

Had they removed the lapped cars between Verstappen and Sainz, and had enough time to restart, he could have pressured Verstappen who might not have got anywhere near Hamilton.

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The leader of a race should never be penalised under a safety car. Unfortunately the worst place to be in this situation in front. I'd make the rules no pit stops under a SC and the distances should be kept steady like they are under a virtual safety car.
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As hungry as he is for his first win (Being at Ferrari for more than a season pretty much guarantees you will win a race so his time will come.)

Sainz would not have wanted to get involved with the front two. Not messing with the championship rivals on the last race of the season is one of the few unwritten codes of conduct the drivers actually seem to stick to.
 
Corky said:
Courts of appeal deciding the outcome of sporting events?

Ricky Tomlinson is either playing to his audience or clueless. It was established in 1994 that this will never happen no matter how incompetent the ref.
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The simple fact is the fact the result was manipulated to enhance the entertainment of the TV audience. If the rules are decided before the race then fair enough, but when the race director makes a ruling during the race that favours one driver over another the audience is being cheated of a fair contest whether it's more exciting or not.
 
If only Verstappen was English maybe the corruption wouldn't seem so corrupt. Or Hamilton North Korean.
 
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Bias is bias is bias. Especially if the participants wave your flag.
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I think, objectively, no-one could believe what the Race Director allowed to happen.

Funnily enough, that was AFTER he had told RB (who told Max) that the lapped cars were NOT going to be allowed to go ahead!

What changed?

Also, as discussed on the commentary, it’s usually done more in the wet than dry, to unstack the cars and avoid incidents and accidents.
 
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What Masi did was make a decision to NOT move the lapped cars, but then realized that even if he could get ONE LAP IN (which Horner implored him to do on the radio for the world to hear!), with the traffic ahead (even blue flagged traffic), Lewis would be off and away after the Safety Car!

Then, he realized if he did allow the lapped cars through, we were not going to be able to get one lap done. Quandary!

So, in his complete lack of sporting wisdom, he came up with a completely new, NETFLIX-ready, solution…just allow the cars BETWEEN them through before they get around to the finish line and pull the safety car!

In effect, he said, “Max either can’t catch Lewis if we race, or has no chance if we don’t race, so let me remove ‘the barrier’ to a race lap by removing the cars involved. Not only will this distill the entire year of hundreds of millions of dollars of hard fought racing down to a 1 lap sprint, it’ll effectively put a slower car with faster tires a fraction of a second behind a faster car with slower tires! That sounds like ‘car racing’ to me!”

The result?

The driver who not only nullified poll position before the first turn, was ahead for the entire race, but also managed his tires for a 1 stop (versus 3 stop!!!) strategy was PENALIZED by allowing the time and track positions lost by his arch rival during those tire changes to be removed from consideration. Thus, the driver who was tied for the Championship before the race, led the entire way in the “Winner Takes All” Grand Finale had the WORLD CHAMPION TITLE taken from him by the Race Director, who made up a solution to his “problem” for the last lap.

If it doesn’t get overturned (unlikely), this title will always have an asterisk besides it for me. And, after giving Max a win earlier in the season, it is simply compounding the fix.

And, as if on cue, Horner suddenly becomes magnanimous and Verstappen turns philosophical!

What an absolute joke Masi has made of this entire season with some of his decisions, especially his final decisive one!

If I were Mercedes, I would go as far as I could with the appeals process…and then drop out of F1 next year, leaving a big gaping hole in the so-called competition!

Formula E is the future.
 
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ChicagoBlue said:
I think, objectively, no-one could believe what the Race Director allowed to happen.

Funnily enough, that was AFTER he had told RB (who told Max) that the lapped cars were NOT going to be allowed to go ahead!

What changed?

Also, as discussed on the commentary, it’s usually done more in the wet than dry, to unstack the cars and avoid incidents and accidents.
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Higher ups giving him an order no doubt
 
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