Coronavirus (2021) thread

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blueinsa said:
Given we are assured it doubles almost everyday, the whole of the UK should have had it by now if you listened to half of the retweets in this subject.

We are now at a point of having to protect the NHS at all costs and it seems restricting and locking away Joe Public is the easiest way for politicians to do it rather than just fucking paying for a world class service which no one seems to want to do or accept?

It has to change and it has to stop.
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Who is restricted or locked away?

You didn’t answer my question the other day.

What can’t you currently do?
 
johnnymarrsbarres said:
And the same industries will keep being thrown under the bus.

www.artsprofessional.co.uk

'Catastrophic' collapse in attendance under Plan B - Arts Professional

It's estimated nearly £2bn has been lost from music venues since last week's announcement.
www.artsprofessional.co.uk www.artsprofessional.co.uk
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Music industry is being decimated. Small bands who need tours to survive are living off handouts at the moment.... Even big bands with albums under their belts can't survive on Spotify royalties.

I've been to a lot of small gigs throughout all this to help, and, well, because it's what i've done for as long as i can remember. I'll admit tho, i have a ticket for a small gig on Friday, but won't be going. Just too close to Christmas for me to risk anything and not being able to spend a few days with family. Still, ticket purchased so band will make a bit, and given to a mate, who will sup enough to help the venue out.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
This is a disaster and an industry that this government really don't care about? Grass roots music and entertainment got no support last time and will be treated the same this.
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The Culture Recovery Fund saved a lot of jobs and businesses (mine included) but it's nowhere near enough, and the problem now is while live music can go ahead as normal, the confusion and fear tactics deployed by the government to 'ask' people to stay at home etc without forcibly closing businesses, means people stop spending money *and* the sector has no support.
 
Noelsnapkin said:
Or die with it.
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Indeed but I’ve done all I can in vaccinating myself, understand it gives me no guarantees of not catching it or passing it on and the chances of me dieing with it are still incredibly small.

Life isn’t risk free, never has been, never will be and there are lots of ways we can all die and we all will at some point.

That’s not me not giving a fuck, it’s just the reality.
 
johnnymarrsbarres said:
They have been all along, and rightly so early on. Fear was a sensible strategy in March 2020.

The thing is, it worked *too* well.
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Fear is never a sensible strategy. Truth is the one strategy that should be used, with politicians, scientists and the like not being afraid to say “we don’t know”. Get it wrong in hindsight and explain why you got it wrong and what you’re doing to make sure you don’t make the same mistake.
 
BBC News:

"Professor Tim Spector, who helped found the Zoe symptom-tracking app, has said Covid cases in London are accelerating more than was seen during the very first wave of the virus.

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the "majority of symptoms" of the Omicron variant are like a common cold, including headaches, a sore throat, runny nose, fatigue and sneezing."

All this panic over this.
 
lancs blue said:
Perhaps Harries was meaning the knock-on effect of a huge number of Omicron cases on the day-to-day functioning of the NHS rather than the severity of the variant itself?
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Could be, but it would be nice if we had some clarification on that. As already stated, her comments could be construed as meaning that Omicron is more deadly than Delta and the other main variants when people on the ground in SA are indicating that it might well be less deadly.

If that's the case then long-term it's good news but I also accept that short-term it could create all kinds of havoc in terms of workplaces and hospitality venues being unable to function properly due to having so many employees off work who are isolating.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
And how many will be in hospital, tens of thousands according to Jenny Harris and very few according to South African doctors? That's the big difference I'm taking from these reports?
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It doesn’t actually matter who’s right in the scenario I’ve painted though. If it’s 10‘s of thousands we have more quite a few more deaths and if it’s not, we don’t. The time frame is too short for any interventions to make any difference whatsoever. We are in the classic situation of the politicians fallacy. “Something must be done”. “This is something”. “Thats what we will do”, (even though they know most of it doesn’t work and has not only never been recommended in the past, but actively discouraged).

I also find it somewhat distasteful that, after years of systematically undermining the NHS, this government are putting all the ills facing the country at the foot of ‘saving our NHS’. If they’d wanted to save it they should not have kicked it half to death in the first place…
 
blueinsa said:
I must have missed the bulk of the last 2 years and current round or restrictions creeping in lol.

You might have no issues with it, many more do I’d wager.
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they won’t need to lock down anyway.

if they are right about the rate of transmission and it doubling every couple of days, then by January we will have it anyway and be self isolating. Everything will be closed.
 
blueinsa said:
I must have missed the bulk of the last 2 years and current round or restrictions creeping in lol.

You might have no issues with it, many more do I’d wager.
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At least you can go to football or a concert as long as you prove that you are not unclean.
Of course, because you can still contract and pass on the virus, double vaccination doesn’t mean that, but hey ho, at least they are ”doing something”.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
It doesn’t actually matter who’s right in the scenario I’ve painted though. If it’s 10‘s of thousands we have more quite a few more deaths and if it’s not, we don’t. The time frame is too short for any interventions to make any difference whatsoever. We are in the classic situation of the politicians fallacy. “Something must be done”. “This is something”. “Thats what we will do”, (even though they know most of it doesn’t work and has not only never been recommended in the past, but actively discouraged).

I also find it somewhat distasteful that, after years of systematically undermining the NHS, this government are putting all the ills facing the country at the foot of ‘saving our NHS’. If they’d wanted to save it they should not have kicked it half to death in the first place…
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Well said my friend.
 
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