Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Alan Harper's Tash said:
What can’t you do currently? 4 households together in Scotland is the only restriction I can see.
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Its 3. I can’t go to work for over 50 hours a week without having to wear a mask. It’s debilitating, it’s an horrendous experience but here we are having to do it. I can’t go anywhere without a mask but again, some might accept that and have no problems but I’m afraid I do and always will do.

It’s not normal, it’s not an acceptable way of life and it never will be.
 
blueinsa said:
Its 3. I can’t go to work for over 50 hours a week without having to wear a mask. It’s debilitating, it’s an horrendous experience but here we are having to do it. I can’t go anywhere without a mask but again, some might accept that and have no problems but I’m afraid I do and always will do.

It’s not normal, it’s not an acceptable way of life and it never will be.
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Horrendous wearing a mask. Ok.

Guess we have different interpretations of the word horrendous.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
At least you can go to football or a concert as long as you prove that you are not unclean.
Of course, because you can still contract and pass on the virus, double vaccination doesn’t mean that, but hey ho, at least they are ”doing something”.
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You don't have to be double or triple jabbed to get into football matches and gigs - a negative LFT will do.

I do feel though with Omicron being far more transmissable that it should be a negative LFT for all and not just either/or
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Horrendous wearing a mask. Ok.

Guess we have different interpretations of the word horrendous.
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Obviously but then we all don’t share the same daily experiences in work do we or what we have to do to earn a crust?

I’ve done everything asked of me, always will but for a tiny minority and those who happily follow every word, it will never be enough.
 
Covid obviously affects people differently but I've had nothing other than what's been the same as when I've had flu and needed to be off for a day or two from work.

Got to isolate until Wednesday next week though. Reckon I'll be karchering back yard tomorrow and I might get the Vax out to do the carpets Friday to relieve the boredom.

Glad I'm double jabbed because I'm aware it could be much worse as a bloke over the road who's the same age as me ended up in ICU. He was anti vaccination. He's far fitter than I am too as he's into rock climbing and shit whereas I'm into drinking stout and City.
 
I just can’t see how the U.K. or indeed any country will be able to operate by the start of next week. If people need to isolate for ten days after testing positive, and it’s so transmissible, then transport, retail, education, heavens everything, will just have to close down for a fortnight.
 
blueinsa said:
Obviously but then we all don’t share the same daily experiences in work do we or what we have to do to earn a crust?

I’ve done everything asked if me, always will but for a tiny minority and those who happily follow every word, it will never be enough.
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To my mind, it’s not worth getting angry about. We can’t change it, so it just seems wasted energy to me.

I’m sorry it upsets/angers you. Truly.

Wearing a mask is inconvenient and I have to wear contact lenses on days that I need to wear one for prolonged periods of time.

However, the actual wearing of a mask shows to me that the other person cares about what’s going on and the health of others, not just themselves.
 
blueinsa said:
It’s hard when after 2 years of lockdown and restrictions and having had 3 injections in still told it’s not enough?

Time to live with covid and not be ruled by it imo.
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We are probably a year away from even thinking of doing that. Firstly, we need to put in place a health service that can cope with Covid and continue to function normally for everything else. We will not do that. Secondly, vaccines/annual boosters and pills etc should mitigate the worse effects (which we appear to be seeing with Omicron), but may not be enough to shield a health service ran on thin margins, so unless we do point one, we will be forever vulnerable to these winter panics.

The other issue is data. We don’t have enough hard data on Covid, and won’t have enough for a good few years. Without hard data and the confidence to rely on that data, we are always going to get these annual emergency restrictions or at least the threat of them.

Covid has shaped and will continue to shape the way we behave, which by definition is ‘living with it’.
 
Gabriel said:
I just can’t see how the U.K. or indeed any country will be able to operate by the start of next week. If people need to isolate for ten days after testing positive, and it’s so transmissible, then transport, retail, education, heavens everything, will just have to close down for a fortnight.
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exactly . If it’s doubling every couple of days then everything will be closed. Schools , hospitals , police everything .

lockdown restrictions in January won’t be needed .
 
Gabriel said:
I just can’t see how the U.K. or indeed any country will be able to operate by the start of next week. If people need to isolate for ten days after testing positive, and it’s so transmissible, then transport, retail, education, heavens everything, will just have to close down for a fortnight.
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It’ll be fine as long as the government don’t announce it as a lockdown.
 
johnnymarrsbarres said:
I'm 34 and got my booster tomorrow.

Feeling nervous now about having it done ffs. Especially as I already have a phobia of needles and massive anxiety around anything medical.

I had a panic attack in the waiting room when I had my first jab.
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Churchlawtonblue said:
What I don't quite understand is the difference in the opinion of the likes of Jenny Harris stating things such "probably the most significant threat [to public health] since the start of the pandemic". What does this mean ? Does she think it is going to kill more people than the first two waves, because that's what that statement could easily be interpreted as?

Compare that stance to the likes of experts from South Africa who are what 4 weeks?? further down the line with this variant than the rest of the world? Such as Dr Angelique Coetzee who have repeatedly stated that early indications are that the variant results in very mild illness? This is from first hand experience of them treating patients, not stats and models.

They just seem to be poles apart in their view of the severity of Omicron.
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Not gonna lie, I’m preferring the news out from SA to the U.K. at the moment.
 
M18CTID said:
You don't have to be double or triple jabbed to get into football matches and gigs - a negative LFT will do.

I do feel though with Omicron being far more transmissable that it should be a negative LFT for all and not just either/or
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I don’t necessarily disagree about LFT’s in theory but, for them to be effective, you’d need to do them when you turned up at the event/restaurant/pub. Imagine doing a pub crawl and doing 8 LFT’s!

My main point though was that, having been tripled jabbed, I can still pass this virus on. If the point of the ’pass’ is to not spread it, vaccination status is pointless. Also, I can’t see why a lateral flow test would not do for NHS and care workers rather than mandatory vaccines.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
To my mind, it’s not worth getting angry about. We can’t change it, so it just seems wasted energy to me.

I’m sorry it upsets/angers you. Truly.

Wearing a mask is inconvenient and I have to wear contact lenses on days that I need to wear one for prolonged periods of time.

However, the actual wearing of a mask shows to me that the other person cares about what’s going on and the health of others, not just themselves.
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Agreed and despite my posts, I’m not a angry pal, I do as I’m told, do my civic duty to protect myself and others but just feel we are now going down roads that will be never ending for a tiny vocal minority and it’s that situation that worries me.
 
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Alan Harper's Tash said:
It’ll be fine as long as the government don’t announce it as a lockdown.
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As I pointed out yesterday, it’s reckoned that 50% of adults (20-40) in South Africa could have it at the one time, but because they don’t have the same level of restrictions in place, or testing, the country can still function. I’ve yet to hear the U.K. Government asked what it will do in that eventuality, though I suspect that at that point it will downgrade Omicron’s severity and encourage everyone back to work. Best enjoy the hibernation when it comes, I say. :-)
 
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