BlueHammer85
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My mate was due to fly France Saturday morning for a skiing trip - breaking news that France will not allow British tourists. So harsh.
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RobMCFC
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I feel sorry for anybody in that position but the French are simply reacting to the fact that we are run by a bunch of limp lettuces who refuse to wake up and realise what it happening. Can't blame them really.My mate was due to fly France Saturday morning for a skiing trip - breaking news that France will not allow British tourists. So harsh.
BlueHammer85
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I feel sorry for anybody in that position but the French are simply reacting to the fact that we are run by a bunch of limp lettuces who refuse to wake up and realise what it happening. Can't blame them really.
think there hospitals out there are struggling once again
Gabriel
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That’s what South Africans were saying last week, too. It’s ridiculous when there are probably so many cases in France already and its neighboring countries, where there are no travel restrictions. Need to be seen to be doing something, I suppose.My mate was due to fly France Saturday morning for a skiing trip - breaking news that France will not allow British tourists. So harsh.
hilts
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Slightly more complex than what i was hoping for:-)To answer your question of how much is a life worth a good starter for ten would be looking at the HSE societal cost of a workplace fatality which in 2018 was £1.75m per fatality. For roads it’s around £2m for preventing a fatality.
So if you can demonstrate that you would have to spend disproportionately more than £2m for each life saved then you could demonstrate that the risk is as low as reasonably practicable.
The cost of the pandemic in the UK is around £410bn so about £6k for every person. Based upon £2m per person it would need to have saved 205000 lives which is maybe believable.
Of course there is a flaw in these figures, as whilst the value of £2m is appropriate for preventing a fatality, bodies like NICE who license potential life saving drugs only work on a figure of around £40k per person.In that case it would need to have saved over 10m people which by anyones estimates it certainly won’t have.
Looking for an acceptable number deaths really isn’t the right approach it should be loss of life years based upon average life expectancy in the uk. Sadly Covid produces a figure which is about 6 times worse than Flu with respect to this, I.e more dying at a younger age.
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Gogootz
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The long foreheads need to stop giving each other Nobel prizes & hand jobs and get on with it, it's important!thEY SHoulD jUst. SOrt iT OUt !
Johnny Mars Bar
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My mate was due to fly France Saturday morning for a skiing trip - breaking news that France will not allow British tourists. So harsh.
Wouldn’t be like Macron to use the pandemic as an excuse to score shallow political points would it.
My Mum is not anti-vax but she hasn't had a booster. She was in hospital. Hospital refused to do it.Anyone in that age group has been offered jabs and boosters a while ago now.
I’m not willing to sacrifice one inch of my life to save the lives of elderly anti vaxxers.
Wouldn’t be like Macron to use the pandemic as an excuse to score shallow political points would it.
Macron hating on the Brits is as normal as night following day
Johnny Mars Bar
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Macron hating on the Brits is as normal as night following day
When he started casting doubt on the AZ vaccines purely to score points he should’ve been sacked. How many lives did that cost, in a country that already has a massive problem with anti vaxxers - more so than any other country in Europe.
SilverFox2
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A friend in Cambridge was in hospital for a couple of weeks (in her 80s) but was given a booster however she contracted Covid 2 days later.My Mum is not anti-vax but she hasn't had a booster. She was in hospital. Hospital refused to do it.
Luckily she has pulled through with hospital care but I think a booster needs a week or 2 to build up its purpose.
hilts
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I don't know how it gets mentioned every other bloody page:)It’s a message a lot of people seem to be ignoring.
We live longer bad in virus terms
We are more vaccinated good
South Africa has aids bad for their immunity
We don't good for our immunity
It transmits quick bad
It's less severe good
Rinse and repeat
mosssideblue
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Why is it harsh? In their position, I wouldn't want visitors from a hot spot country.My mate was due to fly France Saturday morning for a skiing trip - breaking news that France will not allow British tourists. So harsh.
Diabetic’s (type1) take a jab everyday to stay alive, it’s really no big deal if you have to have one in 3 months time to protect you, your family and friends in order to live a “normal” lifestyle. How do you feel today? I was just knackered after my booster for one day.If they think I'm having a fourth jab in 100 days they're having a fucking laugh.
grunge
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I don't know how it gets mentioned every other bloody page:)
We live longer bad in virus terms
We are more vaccinated good
South Africa has aids bad for their immunity
We don't good for our immunity
It transmits quick bad
It's less severe good
Rinse and repeat
I was thinking outside of this thread as well. far too many people are just fobbing this off as a common cold now because of the reports from SA being pushed a lot.
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BlueHammer85
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Why is it harsh? In their position, I wouldn't want visitors from a hot spot country.
just on my mate, feel for him, he booked up ages ago and was really looking forward to this
Why is it harsh? In their position, I wouldn't want visitors from a hot spot country.
So at the moment that's almost every country in the world.
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When he started casting doubt on the AZ vaccines purely to score points he should’ve been sacked. How many lives did that cost, in a country that already has a massive problem with anti vaxxers - more so than any other country in Europe.
The UK has fully vaccinated 69.6%, France 71.4%.
The UK rolling average for vaccinations over the last week is 460k, France 590k.
There is little difference between the two countries.
Johnny Mars Bar
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Diabetic’s (type1) take a jab everyday to stay alive, it’s really no big deal if you have to have one in 3 months time to protect you, your family and friends in order to live a “normal” lifestyle. How do you feel today? I was just knackered after my booster for one day.
A dead arm - more so than when I had my first two. But apart from that I’m fine. Had a bit of a headache and felt tired last night but a couple of paracetamol sorted that.
Going for jabs every three months is ridiculous and completely unworkable from a logistics and cost perspective. It just can’t be the way forward.
Annual optional booster like they do for the flu? Fine.
Queuing up for three hours at some Army emergency tent hooked up to a squash court by the Etihad four times a year? Dream on.
Johnny Mars Bar
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The UK has fully vaccinated 69.6%, France 71.4%.
The UK rolling average for vaccinations over the last week is 460k, France 590k.
There is little difference between the two countries.
They have now.
France have a long and colourful history of vaccination hesitancy. It’s a big problem there and that clown stoked the fires early on.
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