F1 Season 2021

I actually don't think Masi purposefully set out to engineer a scenario where Max wins the race. A mixture of grand incompetence, allowing himself to be browbeaten by Horner and the pressure, which he clearly couldn't handle, of knowing there were millions if not billions of people around the world waiting for him to make the right call.

Masi has to go and can't be anywhere near another F1 race.
You may well be right on the purposefully element.

He panicked, bodged together his own rules and in doing so manufactured the result.

He has to go. He’s shown at best that he can‘t handle pressure and is influenced by team directors.

Why team directors have access to speak to him whilst making decisions is crazy to me. They shouldn’t be able to influence decisions, only question them afterwards.
 
I actually don't think Masi purposefully set out to engineer a scenario where Max wins the race. A mixture of grand incompetence, allowing himself to be browbeaten by Horner and the pressure, which he clearly couldn't handle, of knowing there were millions if not billions of people around the world waiting for him to make the right call.

Masi has to go and can't be anywhere near another F1 race.

You may well be right on the purposefully element.

He panicked, bodged together his own rules and in doing so manufactured the result.

He has to go. He’s shown at best that he can‘t handle pressure and is influenced by team directors.

Why team directors have access to speak to him whilst making decisions is crazy to me. They shouldn’t be able to influence decisions, only question them afterwards.

It's not a coincidence that Horner was on the radio to him demanding he got 1 racing lap and Masi broke all the rules to give them...1 racing lap.

I'm not inclined to believe conspiracies, so the more likely scenario is that he was too chicken shit to stand up to Horner, something we've seen all year, and gave him what he asked.
 
It's not a coincidence that Horner was on the radio to him demanding he got 1 racing lap and Masi broke all the rules to give them...1 racing lap.

I'm not inclined to believe conspiracies, so the more likely scenario is that he was too chicken shit to stand up to Horner, something we've seen all year, and gave him what he asked.
Has anything been said formally about Masi from the FIA?
 
Has anything been said formally about Masi from the FIA?
The fia will be hoping no fucker ever breathes the name masi again , red flag and 4-5 lap race or leave cars on track positions for the 1 lap race if not enough time to let all unlap themselves would both be beneficial to max compared the 12 sec gap, but would both given less of a clusterfuck farce of an ending. Would max have caught Hamilton after lapping the cars he didn’t under race conditions? Would have been an interesting watch for sure.
 
Max, daddy, Karen, Helmut and orange shirted cheerleaders would have gone fruitloop crazy had the tables been turned and I doubt we would have seen Max and his dad showing the incredible humility and dignity show by Lewis and his old man. I also suspect Red Bull would definitely have taken this further.

Big asterisk against Verstappen for the rest of time now.

Mercedes withdrawing their appeal, probably so the sport doesn't fall apart.

You can almost guarantee that the outcome of the review will be that the FIA will never apply that version of the regulation again.

Mercedes and Wolf have let Hamilton down today.

Everyone is praising Hamilton's humility and dignity in the face of having a title stolen from him, but the problem is he has to behave like that. He's said it so many times, he doesn't get to be angry or kick up a fuss and storm into the Race Directors office like Schumacher did. He feels that his position as the only black formula 1 driver means he's not just representing himself.

In DTS there's a clip about Hamilton where they talk about when he got abused at races as a kid, and how his dad always told them to just turn the other cheek, because they couldn't win anything by fighting back.

So of course Hamilton reacted the way he did, he's had it drilled into him since he first started driving that he has to be on perfect behaviour at all times and to turn the other cheek.

That's what he needed Toto for. He needed his team boss to be the villain for him, and go to court and get justice. Someone needed to make sure history doesn't forget what happened on Sunday, and you can already see the max fanatic idiots saying things like "Oh they didn't appeal so they obviously had no case" which is bullshit.


Whatever backroom deal Toto got isn't enough. Suzie Wolf posted something where she said Lewis was robbed. That makes her the first Mercedes-affiliated person to say that, but hopefully more will.
 
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Sure and he could have done that by not allowing lapped cars past to make it a fairer race.

He panicked and created his own rules and manufactured the result.

That would've been as (un)entertaining as finishing under the safety car though. Hamilton would've been miles up the road by the time Verstappen had negotiated the backmarkers.

Was it the right decision? Maybe not but it was admirable that he thought to try and give us a racing finish.
 
That would've been as (un)entertaining as finishing under the safety car though. Hamilton would've been miles up the road by the time Verstappen had negotiated the backmarkers.

Was it the right decision? Maybe not but it was admirable that he thought to try and give us a racing finish.
Sure, as long as racing integrity doesn’t matter.
 
That would've been as (un)entertaining as finishing under the safety car though. Hamilton would've been miles up the road by the time Verstappen had negotiated the backmarkers.

Was it the right decision? Maybe not but it was admirable that he thought to try and give us a racing finish.
Wasn't really a racing finish though was it? A racing corner more like.
 
Read my previous post. It's a Championship that's decided on the whole season not a few laps on one race.
 
Read my previous post. It's a Championship that's decided on the whole season not a few laps on one race.
If the crash and removal of the safety car had happened a lap or two earlier giving Max 2 or 3 laps to catch Hamilton, Masi would have kept the cars in position and that would have been okay I suppose. Mercedes probably would have given up lap position and changed tyres. Trying to squeeze a lap of racing in the way he did wasn't "luck" on the track and it'll be remembered that way which isn't nice for either driver.
 
But it was?

No it wasn't. It was decided by the sum of all the points in all the races throughout the season.

It was on a knife edge and things like Alonso's epic defence on Hamilton at Hungary, Hamilton's brilliant drive at Brazil etc were just as important.
 
No it wasn't. It was decided by the sum of all the points in all the races throughout the season.

It was on a knife edge and things like Alonso's epic defence on Hamilton at Hungary, Hamilton's brilliant drive at Brazil etc were just as important.
Ok, so going into the last race, the points were level, meaning that the championship was decided in the final few laps following the safety car.

Saying that if Lewis had won all the races before Abu Dhabi would have meant this race was irrelevant is pointless.

The championship was LITERALLY decided on the last lap, manufactured by Masi.
 
Ok, so going into the last race, the points were level, meaning that the championship was decided in the final few laps following the safety car.

Saying that if Lewis had won all the races before Abu Dhabi would have meant this race was irrelevant is pointless.

The championship was LITERALLY decided on the last lap, manufactured by Masi.

He knows, he just doesn't want to admit the title was stolen.
 
I'd just like to reiterate what an impressive season Sainz has had. First person to ever beat Leclerc in F1 as a teammate.

It'll be really interesting to see what happens if Ferrari are competitive next year.



Also, it might be worth finally asking, is Vettel that good anymore?
 
I'd just like to reiterate what an impressive season Sainz has had. First person to ever beat Leclerc in F1 as a teammate.

It'll be really interesting to see what happens if Ferrari are competitive next year.



Also, it might be worth finally asking, are either of Vettel or Ricciardo that good anymore?

Ricciardo's problem this year is that the McLaren is hypersensitive to small steering inputs which completely changes the way you have to enter and exit corners compared to his previous cars.

I remember Seidel explaining this and how they've known about it since that basic car debuted in 2017. They spent the summer working on it and after that he had some really good weekends.

I expect he's going to be much faster next season in a car that's been designed with his input, or just a car without the unique quirks of the old McLaren.

I'm so pissed off with the sport right now, but genuine challenges by 2 of Ferrari, Alpine and McLaren would bring me back.
 
I'd just like to reiterate what an impressive season Sainz has had. First person to ever beat Leclerc in F1 as a teammate.

It'll be really interesting to see what happens if Ferrari are competitive next year.



Also, it might be worth finally asking, is Vettel that good anymore?
A lot is down to what’s under you, I’m a Lando fan and hope he gets a better package next year.
 

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