Anti Vax Demonstration outside South Stand

Although he wasn't writing about anti-vaxxers when he wrote his book Believing Bullshit, the philosopher Stephen Law has an amusing take on the reasoning processes that underpin this type of thinking, one which could equally be applied to Young Earth Creationism, Climate Change Denial, QAnon and David Icke-type conspiracy theorising, and other belief systems that arguably remain impervious to criticism for those who subscribe to them:

'The Strange Case of Dave

Dave believes dogs are spies from the planet Venus. He views any canine with great suspicion, for he believes they are here from Venus to do reconnaissance work. Dogs, Dave supposes, secretly send their reports back to Venus, where the rest of their fiendishly cunning alien species are meticulously planning their invasion of the earth. Their spaceships will shortly arrive from Venus to enslave the human race and take over the world. Unsurprisingly, Dave’s friends think he has a screw loose and try to convince him that dogs are comparatively benign pets, not cunning alien spies. Here’s a typical example of how their conversations with Dave go:

DAVE: It’s only a matter of weeks now! The spaceships will arrive and then you’ll wish you’d listened to me. We must act now—let the government know!
MARY: Look, Dave, dogs are pretty obviously not space invaders, they’re just dumb pets. Dogs can’t even speak, for goodness sake, let alone communicate with Venus!
DAVE: They can speak—they just choose to hide their linguistic ability from us. They wait till we leave the room before they talk to each other.
PETE: But Venus is a dead planet, Dave. It’s horrifically hot and swathed in clouds of acid. Nothing could live there, certainly not a dog!
DAVE: Dogs don’t live on the surface of Venus, you fool—they live below, in deep underground bunkers.
MARY: But then how do earth-bound dogs communicate with their allies on Venus? I’ve got a dog, and I’ve never found an alien transmitter hidden in his basket.
DAVE: They don’t use technology we can observe. Their transmitters are hidden inside their brains!
MARY: But Pete is a vet, and he’s X-rayed several dog’s heads, and he’s never found anything in there!
PETE: In fact, I once chopped up a dog’s brain in veterinary school—let me assure you, Dave, there was no transmitter in there!
DAVE: You’re assuming their transmitters would be recognizable as such. They are actually made of organic material indistinguishable from brain stuff. That’s why they
don’t show up on X-rays. This is advanced alien technology, remember—of course we cannot detect it!
MARY: But we don’t detect any weird signals being directed
at Venus from the earth.
DAVE: Of course, we don’t—like I said, remember, this is advanced alien technology beyond our limited understanding!
PETE: How do dogs fly spaceships? They don’t even have hands. So they can’t hold things like steering wheels and joysticks.
DAVE: Really, Pete. Think about it. You are assuming that their spacecraft will be designed to be operated by human hands. Obviously they won’t. They’ll be designed to be manoeuvred by a dog’s limbs, mouth, tongue, and so on.

You can see how this conversation might continue
ad nauseum. Mary and Pete can keep coming up with evidence against Dave’s belief that dogs are Venusian spies. But, given sufficient ingenuity, Dave can always salvage his core theory. He can continually adjust and develop it so that it continues to “fit” the evidence.

Confirmation —The “Fit” Model

Clearly, Dave’s theory about dogs is not well confirmed by the available evidence. The first moral we can extract from this example is that, whatever is required in order for a theory to be well confirmed, rather more is required than achieving mere consistency with that evidence.

As Dave illustrates, any belief, no matter how ludicrous, can be made consistent with the available evidence, given a little patience and ingenuity. Believe that the earth is flat, that the moon is made of cheese, that the World Trade Centre was brought down by the US government, or that George W. Bush is really Elvis Presley in disguise? All these theories can be endlessly adjusted and developed so that they remain consistent with the available evidence. Yet they are obviously not well confirmed. The claim that Young Earth Creationism is at least as well confirmed as its scientific rivals relies crucially on what we might call the “fit” model of confirmation. According to the “fit” model, confirmation is all about “fitting” the evidence. But more is required for genuine confirmation than mere “fit,” which any theory, no matter how absurd, can in principle achieve.'

I enjoyed that. Both funny and accurate.

Because I'm a twat, I've started started baiting social media conspiracy theory junkies I know in real life by making up my own, waiting for them to tell me it's ridiculous and then trying to make them disprove it. Inevitably, frustration ensues and they give up. This is followed by a grin and a "do you see what I'm getting at" expression.

I figure it's better than getting annoyed and calling them fucking morons. At best, I can plant a seed. At worst, I get to have a laugh while giving them a taste of their own medicine.

Venusian canine spies might just be my new favourite one.
 
I enjoyed that. Both funny and accurate.

Because I'm a twat, I've started started baiting social media conspiracy theory junkies I know in real life by making up my own, waiting for them to tell me it's ridiculous and then trying to make them disprove it. Inevitably, frustration ensues and they give up. This is followed by a grin and a "do you see what I'm getting at" expression.

I figure it's better than getting annoyed and calling them fucking morons. At best, I can plant a seed. At worst, I get to have a laugh while giving them a taste of their own medicine.

Venusian canine spies might just be my new favourite one.
Love this. But you should still call them morons.
 
After much consideration I have concluded that it would be wrong to jump to the conclusion that these people are too stupid to know the difference between a vaccine centre and a testing centre.

But I did anyway.

They’re not all that hot when it comes to doing their ‘research’, this lot.

See recent embarrassing mistakes at ‘the BBC’ and at ‘Alan Shearer’s house’ for further evidence of their fundamental lack of even the most basic research on the locations they target.

Which when you think about it, is probably at the crux of why they believe what they do. Doing research can be difficult, confusing, and often frustratingly doesn’t result in neat, simple, easy to understand, binary answers to complex questions.

Better to take a single, out of context piece of information you’ve found online and run with it. Like where the BBC is headquartered. Or what a vaccine centre actually is. Or that vaccines are some nefarious (and bafflingly inefficient) collaborative attempt by Governments worldwide to control their populations. Enabling George Soros to eat babies. Or something.
 
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Fucking hell. They walk amongst us.
Don't be a sheep. You just have to do your own research.

And by that I mean you can choose to listen to the right wing Facebook memes posted by conspiracy theorist relatives who dropped out of school, or the scientists who have dedicated their lives to studying diseases and developing treatments.
 
Don't be a sheep. You just have to do your own research.

And by that I mean you can choose to listen to the right wing Facebook memes posted by conspiracy theorist relatives who dropped out of school, or the scientists who have dedicated their lives to studying diseases and developing treatments.

Most of the covid deniers I have come across are cross party cross ideologies, a lot are educated but quite frankly twisted.

Politics doesn't come into this, it's stupid people that come into this.
 
Most of the covid deniers I have come across are cross party cross ideologies, a lot are educated but quite frankly twisted.

Politics doesn't come into this, it's stupid people that come into this.
Maybe it's a symptom of where I live but it sounds like you've come across more intelligent anti-vaxxers than I have. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not.
 
Maybe it's a symptom of where I live but it sounds like you've come across more intelligent anti-vaxxers than I have. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not.

There is no such thing as an intelligent anti-vaxxer mate, education isn't a sign of intelligence.

For instance the hospital infestation today mainly consisted of anti-tory liberals shall we call them? Politics isn't the key, stupidity is.
 
Don't be a sheep. You just have to do your own research.

And by that I mean you can choose to listen to the people who cant tell the difference between a testing centre and a vaccination centre or the scientists who have dedicated their lives to studying diseases and developing treatments.

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