Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

[MaineDAWG2008]

the yanks can do one! theres no way we are handing our andrew over. GTFO! :-)

 

[Octavian]

And Boris Johnson didn’t know he was at a party. So far, that’s the best we’ve got and therefore innocence must be presumed.

Did you miss him admit he was there today :-)

 

[Cellarite]

Did you miss him admit he was there today :-)

Did you miss him saying he didn’t realise it was a party?

 

[Octavian]

I’m not guessing anything. It is standard procedure to deep check on anyone who comes into contact with the future king. And the closer and more regular the contact, the deeper and more extensive the background checks.

It is 100% fact that Saville‘s predilections for children and corpses were communicated to Charles. And also 100% true that for reasons of his own, Charles decided to enter into a years long, deeply personal relationship with him.

I have my own ideas as to why he would do that but that’s probably for another thread.

There’s a guy 2 replies above who’s met Prince Phillip and wasn’t vetted.

Your “100% fact” when you have no concrete evidence suggests to me you’re not exactly objective.

 

[Octavian]

Did you miss him saying he didn’t realise it was a party?

Until he got there…

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I have been in the same room, and close enough to smell the breath of Phil the Greek (along with a handful of others(, with no additional vetting over and above of that to do our jobs)

Yes but you worked for Airbus, obviously you would have already had high level clearance anyway.

And you can't possibly know whether or not they did or didn't carry out enhanced vetting behind the scenes.

E.g. Whether or not you were on a list have people who had accessed "islamic websites" or had attended the same watering holes as Irish Republicans.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

There’s a guy 2 replies above who’s met Prince Phillip and wasn’t vetted.

Your “100% fact” when you have no concrete evidence suggests to me you’re not exactly objective.

No.

There’s a guy two posts above me who was in a room - once - with Phillip. And he WILL have been checked, believe me he WILL have been. He might not know he was, but you can take to the bank the FACT that he will have been.

With respect to the poster, we aren’t talking about a random one off opportunity to meet Phillip. We are talking about a predator who met privately with the future king dozens of times, over many years. A predator who was widely known about.

But the security services decided - not once but dozens of times - to think “ah sod it. He’s a known paedophile and necophiliac but the future king won’t come to any harm being alone in his presence along with his vulnerable wife and young children. One of whom is the future future king”
Or you can believe that they did tell lord Mountbatten’s nephew he was in the presence of a known predator who specialised in procuring young children and said future king decided - for reasons one can only guess at of course - “I’ll have a bit of that”

 

[bluejon]

Haha again more fucking guessing!

You don’t have a scooby ffs!

it's not guessing. the security services will know what any of the senior royals are doing at any given time. it's a part of their actual job description. and if they find out anything untoward they will tell their boss. see if you can work out who their boss is (as a clue, there was a James Bond film called "On *blank blank*'s secret service". see if you can guess)

 

[mosssideblue]

Yes but you worked for Airbus, obviously you would have already had high level clearance anyway.

And you can't possibly know whether or not they did or didn't carry out enhanced vetting behind the scenes.

E.g. Whether or not you were on a list have people who had accessed "islamic websites" or had attended the same watering holes as Irish Republicans.

Wrong assumption of where I was working. I and my colleagues were vetted years ago for a specific military role. We did not have any additional checks done on us for his visit, nor those who got to meet Diana, when she was a guest of honour at another location I was working at.

 

[urban genie]

I lived in Jersey for years and it was an alledged open secret amongst locals that Saville had supposidly visited the Island on Ted Heaths yacht in the 70s/80s and been up to no good.
Not many believed it was made up and if true, well if the former PM of this nation was knowledgable about what was going on there is a good chance most of the establishment were aware/purposely ingoring it.

 

[urban genie]

Yes but you worked for Airbus, obviously you would have already had high level clearance anyway.

And you can't possibly know whether or not they did or didn't carry out enhanced vetting behind the scenes.

E.g. Whether or not you were on a list have people who had accessed "islamic websites" or had attended the same watering holes as Irish Republicans.

I cooked a banquet for both Prince Charles and Andrew in the 90s on a royal visit and none of the kitchen staff were vetted as far as I know, though we did need to submit our names weeks before, so we were probably looked up, but never told.

 

[bluejon]

I cooked a banquet for both Prince Charles and Andrew in the 90s on a royal visit and none of the kitchen staff were vetted as far as I know, though we did need to submit our names weeks before, so we were probably looked up, but never told.

check you out with yer royal stories

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I cooked a banquet for both Prince Charles and Andrew in the 90s on a royal visit and none of the kitchen staff were vetted as far as I know, though we did need to submit our names weeks before, so we were probably looked up, but never told.

I think the fact you had to give your names weeks in advance is a bit of a clue mate. NOBODY gets in a room with senior royals without being vetted beforehand. They wont always - or even often - KNOW they’ve been/are being vetted, but they 100% WILL be vetted.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Wrong assumption of where I was working. I and my colleagues were vetted years ago for a specific military role. We did not have any additional checks done on us for his visit, nor those who got to meet Diana, when she was a guest of honour at another location I was working at.

Could there possibly be different levels of vetting for formal engagements in a room with others and the close and private access Savile was able to gain?

That you know of. They had your name, and access to your address. They could have put a tail on you or carried out covert vetting procedures and you could still have been none the wiser.

 

[Octavian]

I think the fact you had to give your names weeks in advance is a bit of a clue mate. NOBODY gets in a room with senior royals without being vetted beforehand. They wont always - or even often - KNOW they’ve been/are being vetted, but they 100% WILL be vetted.

If nobody knows it how do you know?

 

[bluejon]

I think the fact you had to give your names weeks in advance is a bit of a clue mate. NOBODY gets in a room with senior royals without being vetted beforehand. They wont always - or even often - KNOW they’ve been/are being vetted, but they 100% WILL be vetted.

It's very simple. During the time the IRA were in full action, the senior royals were the highest terrorist target possible in this country. They had to vet everyone otherwise one of them would have been bumped off at some point.

 

[urban genie]

check you out with yer royal stories

In hindsight I should have poisioned the nonce and tax fiddler

 

[bluejon]

In hindsight I should have poisioned the nonce and tax fiddler

your cooking mate. good chance you did

 

[Blue Llama]

the yanks can do one! theres no way we are handing our andrew over. GTFO! :-)

I don't have a clue about this but I would be surprised if an extradition order can be raised for a civil case. Extradition is normally handled between courts in criminal cases. Would a civil court have the authority to raise an extradition order?

 

[mosssideblue]

Could there possibly be different levels of vetting for formal engagements in a room with others and the close and private access Savile was able to gain?

That you know of. They had your name, and access to your address. They could have put a tail on you or carried out covert vetting procedures and you could still have been none the wiser.

It was an unplanned visit, a detour for him if you like. We had a couple of hours to get our shit together.