The Scottish Politics thread

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Octavian said:
And he wasn’t confrontational?

Scotland will be screwed if they go but good luck to them.

I’ll just be glad of the day when they can’t blame everything on England.
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Me too (Not that we do).
hopefully the idiots that are in power at Westminster at present will be nowhere to be seen and any parting of the ways can be conducted in a spirit of good faith.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Me too (Not that we do).
hopefully the idiots that are in power at Westminster at present will be nowhere to be seen and any parting of the ways can be conducted in a spirit of good faith.
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I suspect they won’t be and Scotland’s Independence push will die down when Westminster’s government looks more respectable and we’ll be hearing how everything is England’s fault and how great Scotland is for years to come sadly.
 
Octavian said:
I suspect they won’t be and Scotland’s Independence push will die down when Westminster’s government looks more respectable and we’ll be hearing how everything is England’s fault and how great Scotland is for years to come sadly.
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Scotland is great. In fact it’s bloody brilliant but so are very many aspects of England. Most of us love England and the English, we just want to be governed by who we vote for and those people to have sovereign power to make laws and spend the taxes we pay.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Scotland is great. In fact it’s bloody brilliant but so are very many aspects of England. Most of us love England and the English, we just want to be governed by who we vote for and those people to have sovereign power to make laws and spend the taxes we pay.
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I like Scotland, I just cannot stomach the constant whinging and bitterness about England and that’s why I’m perfectly content with the idea of the Union splitting.

It makes more sense for a kingdom of England and Wales, a united ireland and an independent Scotland… mostly due to anti anglo sentiment across the union because they feel trapped.

Although I reckon Scotland will miss England very quickly
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Why so confrontational mate?
surely you can see why we are properly pissed. Iceland do it, Norway do it, Scotland can do it. Nobody claims it will be easy or bump free but surely you would wish your closest neighbours well.
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Confrontational? You did see magics post? Odd way of looking at it a tad biased one might say. Anyhow you had a vote and in my opinion the Scots bottled it. Stop being so subservient and get on with it and I do wish you well.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Why so confrontational mate?
surely you can see why we are properly pissed. Iceland do it, Norway do it, Scotland can do it. Nobody claims it will be easy or bump free but surely you would wish your closest neighbours well.
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Nah, yous can fuck off now. Its boring.
 
Octavian said:
I like Scotland, I just cannot stomach the constant whinging and bitterness about England and that’s why I’m perfectly content with the idea of the Union splitting.

It makes more sense for a kingdom of England and Wales, a united ireland and an independent Scotland… mostly due to anti anglo sentiment across the union because they feel trapped.

Although I reckon Scotland will miss England very quickly
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Don’t think there is much anti anglo sentiment,I certainly haven’t ever experienced any in 20 years living in Scotland, there is anti anglo government sentiment, there is anti anglo media sentiment, though there is that in England too.
I’m not anti anglo, mainly because I’m English, last time I voted No. Next time ,almost entirely down to Westminster government, I’m leaning towards Yes. Even more surprisingly so is, until recent years my staunchly British / English wife, while I contemplated Yes for a while last time she most definitely didn’t.
 
Octavian said:
I suspect they won’t be and Scotland’s Independence push will die down when Westminster’s government looks more respectable and we’ll be hearing how everything is England’s fault and how great Scotland is for years to come sadly.
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Living rent free in their heads. It won't be a case of "Scotland is independent now, lets move on", we'll never stop hearing about how Scotland is doing, "yah boo sucks England" BS for years.

I don't care, but it is so boring hearing them bleat about it and how great they'll be once they go. Frigging just go.
 
blueparrot said:
Don’t think there is much anti anglo sentiment,I certainly haven’t ever experienced any in 20 years living in Scotland, there is anti anglo government sentiment, there is anti anglo media sentiment, though there is that in England too.
I’m not anti anglo, mainly because I’m English, last time I voted No. Next time ,almost entirely down to Westminster government, I’m leaning towards Yes. Even more surprisingly so is, until recent years my staunchly British / English wife, while I contemplated Yes for a while last time she most definitely didn’t.
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And anti-anglo culture, anti-anglo sports coverage, anti-anglo politics, anti-anglo interests.
Y'all hate everything about English people except the English people themselves it appears.
Just. Go. But allow us to have a vote too. I cannot wait to see the look on your faces when you realise we want you gone just as much as you want to leave.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
And anti-anglo culture, anti-anglo sports coverage, anti-anglo politics, anti-anglo interests.
Y'all hate everything about English people except the English people themselves it appears.
Just. Go.
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All of us, have you checked, still yet to meet a Scot that hates all English people despite 20 years living here, no doubt there are a few, then again you seem to hate all Scottish people from your post, without meeting them all, probably very few.
 
blueparrot said:
All of us, have you checked, still yet to meet a Scot that hates all English people despite 20 years living here, no doubt there are a few, then again you seem to hate all Scottish people from your post, without meeting them all, probably very few.
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Every Scot I have met and I have met many have been brilliant.
 
blueparrot said:
All of us, have you checked, still yet to meet a Scot that hates all English people despite 20 years living here, no doubt there are a few, then again you seem to hate all Scottish people from your post, without meeting them all, probably very few.
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Yep, checked every single one, all 5.5m. Same answer every time. You hate Westminster, you want to leave the Union because of it, because racist English people keep voting Tory, but... you don't hate the English. Same rhetoric. I don't "hate" Scotland, (you're the one bringing that sort of hyperbolic language into the discussion, i'm merely pointing that out), i'm just bored of your collective whining.

You want to leave, fine, go. I ain't gonna miss you, stop trying to pretend we will.
 
hilts said:
Every Scot I have met and I have met many have been brilliant.
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They are but every one I’ve met has had at least a mild banter type dislike of the English, ranging to full blown bigotry.

I like Scotland, there’s just a blind spot towards England.

They benefit for being in union with us, far more than the other way around.
 
blueparrot said:
Yes, right.
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Yes, right. :)

I didn't accuse you personally of hating an entire group of people like you just did me. Scots nats HATE the English, and you can't disprove that. Say you want to leave because 'English people are just a bunch of racists who vote in Tories to power'. That's the rhetoric i'm always seeing on social media, on political discussions.
 
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