United Thread - 2021/22

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Manchester U***** interim boss Ralf Rangnick has claimed striker Anthony Martial refused to be involved in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Aston Villa.

Martial, 26, has already told Rangnick he wants to leave U***** this month.
 
It always makes me laugh when morons come out with shite like that. I have heard suggestions for Maguire, Wan Bissaka and Lindelof to play in midfield from them, and the guys who say it are always being 100 per cent serious and believing they're being tactically astute.

First of all, playing in midfield is a whole other ball game from defence. In defence you have the game in front of you, yes there is pressure from strikers, but a midfielder has to receive the ball, often on the turn, and pass between a congested area of the pitch, as well as orchestrate and control the game. It is a completely different ball game. I heard them say AWB can play there cos he can tackle and is fast, as if athleticism and tackling ability are the only considerations for a midfielder. The best midfielders rarely slide tackle, they intercept and have great positioning (rodri, Busquets). Wan Bissaka, Lindelof and Maguire are all technical lepers with low football IQ and little to no short passing ability and who would all be torn to pieces in central midfield.

Think of it this way. Real Madrid experimented with Sergio Ramos in midfield for a while, a much more technically talented player than the above. And he struggled big time in there. But they think guys like Maguire can do it.

I honestly hope that guy is taking the piss because it is frightening that someone who follows football as a fan and presumably has been for years could be that tactically clueless and oblivious.
Agree with every word. I'd still love to see it though:)
 
Martial refused to be selected in the squad? Bloody hell, they are the gift that really does keep on giving.

Since we won the title the only thing they have had was one last cheer when they blagged their last title and we imploded a bit. Every single thing since then has been a horror show for them. Endless bad buys, player discontent, stadium falling to bits, managers being shit or decent ones had the club turn on them rather than sell bad players. The list is long.

I can't have hoped they would be so bad, we knew they were on the way down but they have done that and some. I hope it continues forever. I will never get tired of laughing at their demise, ever!
 
Agree with every word. I'd still love to see it though:)

Hahaha I watched that game live and couldn't believe what I was seeing from the big cumbersome oaf in that passage of play. For some reason some fans think he's good on the ball, lol it amazes me, he's absolutely terrible on the ball and struggles to control it and constantly kicks it out of play.

He looks even more stiff and robotic with a ball at his feet than C Ronaldo does.
 
From one of their numerous threads regarding their shite midfield (the lack of joined up thinking runs deep over there)
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I would genuinely move Maguire into midfield. He can tackle, pass and drive forward. He isnt the most graceful on the ball but he virtually plays midfield with the ball at his feet anyway when he starts. Removes the pressure of being central defence and gives us more legs in midfield. He has the skillset to do it well IMO

They are now saying Shaw should be in midfield. Comedy gold.
 
Manchester U***** interim boss Ralf Rangnick has claimed striker Anthony Martial refused to be involved in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Aston Villa.

Martial, 26, has already told Rangnick he wants to leave U***** this month.
Where’s that banner when you need it?

No, not that one. The other one…
 
Manchester U***** interim boss Ralf Rangnick has claimed striker Anthony Martial refused to be involved in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Aston Villa.

Martial, 26, has already told Rangnick he wants to leave U***** this month.

He would of said nowt if they’d won it’s deflection for his team that lost a 2 goal lead
 
From one of their numerous threads regarding their shite midfield (the lack of joined up thinking runs deep over there)
Now this I would love to see


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I would genuinely move Maguire into midfield. He can tackle, pass and drive forward. He isnt the most graceful on the ball but he virtually plays midfield with the ball at his feet anyway when he starts. Removes the pressure of being central defence and gives us more legs in midfield. He has the skillset to do it well IMO
I vote Dan to be the new interim, interim rag coach. Intermittently;)
 
Another thing that makes me laugh about this lot is how bipolar they are.

Like, if they have a terrible result, they talk about themselves like they're the worst team ever, going nowhere. Then the next game they will fluke a win and it's all 'are we turning the corner, can we challenge for the title this/next season?' Even though both games were the same shockingly shit performance and they jus got luckier and flukier in the one they won. What they fail to realise is they are not inconsistent, they're just a mid-table team. After all, isn't that the very definition of mid-table? You don't lose most weeks so you're not in the relegation zone, but you don't win a lot either so you're nowhere near the top. You just win some, lose some, and draw some. That's the way they are. They're not 'inconsistent' and their games aren't either armageddon or the start of a beautiful new horizon - they're just utterly irrelevant and inconsequential and there to make up the numbers. Most clubs have this problem and lots accept it (by definition most clubs will be mid-table in a league) but this lot just can't accept they're past it and the glory days will never return.

It's a circus.
Looking forward to the preseason that they just accept their midtable expecttions - hope for a good cup run at best and the reaching 40 points as soon as possible. I know it'll be a while yet with their bottemless pockets but hopefully their owners will eventually get sick of throwing money away.

They don't know how lucky they are to have the Glazers.
 
Just need pigmol to get their orders that the rags are not to get ANY decisions, and for sponsorship to completely dry up for them.
 
Since they are going nowhere I would love us to get into Greenwood's ear. The earlier we can save him the better. Quality talent getting closer to becoming the next Martial every counting minute he spends in that toxic cesspit of mediocrity and delusion. Maybe Phil can have a word
He was awful again today. All I does is run and shoot. He has no football intelligence. He'd have been a good player in the early 90s.
 
Another thing that makes me laugh about this lot is how bipolar they are.

Like, if they have a terrible result, they talk about themselves like they're the worst team ever, going nowhere. Then the next game they will fluke a win and it's all 'are we turning the corner, can we challenge for the title this/next season?' Even though both games were the same shockingly shit performance and they jus got luckier and flukier in the one they won. What they fail to realise is they are not inconsistent, they're just a mid-table team. After all, isn't that the very definition of mid-table? You don't lose most weeks so you're not in the relegation zone, but you don't win a lot either so you're nowhere near the top. You just win some, lose some, and draw some. That's the way they are. They're not 'inconsistent' and their games aren't either armageddon or the start of a beautiful new horizon - they're just utterly irrelevant and inconsequential and there to make up the numbers. Most clubs have this problem and lots accept it (by definition most clubs will be mid-table in a league) but this lot just can't accept they're past it and the glory days will never return.

It's a circus.
decided to not watch these puppies and i don't regret it. as a Rag fan, why i pay attention to ppl who don't give 2 shits about the game?
 
wish Ron realize this team is constructed badly and stop pretend that his team could outrank one of Lpool, Chelsea, or Man City
 
About 50 of my retired golfing mates have a whatsapp chat group. The vast majority try to keep it civil and mainly to organise our golf plus a few jokes and sadly everytime football pops up there are 3 or 4 rags that just do not understand banter ,they are incapable of rational adult discussion and go straight to fuckin obnoxious and throw personal insults even to best mates. Always rags never blues they are without doubt the most unpleasant self entitled twats when football raises its head.
 
About 50 of my retired golfing mates have a whatsapp chat group. The vast majority try to keep it civil and mainly to organise our golf plus a few jokes and sadly everytime football pops up there are 3 or 4 rags that just do not understand banter ,they are incapable of rational adult discussion and go straight to fuckin obnoxious and throw personal insults even to best mates. Always rags never blues they are without doubt the most unpleasant self entitled twats when football raises its head.
That's what happens when people construct their self-esteem through a football club, and live vicariously through its success. Man United have more of these insecure fans than most (I'd say all), so when that club is struggling even harmless banter feels like an attack on that person's ability and ego, because they correlate United's worth with their own.

Why do you think all these 'depressed and bored with football' threads pop up on Sadcafe? It's because they need that ever coming stream of success to make them feel happy and like their lives are meaningful. If they had any self-esteem they could be happy just enjoying the games and knowing they seen their team winning trophies in the past, and to be fair some of their more decent rational fans are like that and have accepted their predicament and just enjoy the games and make light of their situation. But others become really nasty and bitter and those are the ones who got into it through glory hunting.

It's a crass and overused analogy, but they're like that girl who shagged around when she was young and gorgeous and could have anyone. She had the time of her life but before she knew it she was old and haggard and all the men now want the women 20 years younger and sexier than she ever was. She's angry and bitter as fuck and keeps having plastic surgery and overdoing the makeup and botox but she will never look remotely as attractive as she did when she was younger, and deep down she knows it.
 
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That's what happens when people construct their self-esteem through a football club, and live vicariously through its success. Man United fans have more of these insecure fans than most (I'd say all), so when that club is struggling even harmless banter feels like an attack on that person's ability and ego, because they correlate United's worth with their own.
Well summed up .Thankyou Doctor...
 
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