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Saddleworth2 said:
I thought that’s who you meant. Can‘t see it mate. His argument against independence was a little different to this.
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Agreed. Although that poster could be an annoying twat, there was some intelligence in his arguments even if I disagreed with them. No evidence of any intelligence with this one, just ignorance and bigotry. I bet he’s a big Farage fan.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
So when we ‘moan’ about the present government, we shouldn’t do that? Irrespective of the fact We haven’t voted Tory for decades we should just sit quiet and suck it up? Labour voter my fucking arse.

Just a not particularly sophisticated WUM. Now go pollute some other thread or register an opinion that is semi intelligent at least.
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When these cunts in government get voted out and Labour are in I absolutely guarantee you the independence movement goes nowhere.
 
west didsblue said:
Agreed. Although that poster could be an annoying twat, there was some intelligence in his arguments even if I disagreed with them. No evidence of any intelligence with this one, just ignorance and bigotry. I bet he’s a big Farage fan.
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Calling out anti English bigotry is bigotry in itself now???

got it
 
Saddleworth2 said:
So our moaning is warranted then? Ok thanks for clarifying that. Btw. We could vote Labour 100% and the Tories still get in.
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No. The Tories are corrupt lying cunts but they’ve bent over backwards to keep you lot happy at the detriment to English people. If Scotland voted Labour next time the Tories will lose, everyone has turned on em
 
Saddleworth2 said:
So our moaning is warranted then? Ok thanks for clarifying that. Btw. We could vote Labour 100% and the Tories still get in.
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Of course he could be angry because if Scotland goes the UK becomes a one party Tory state. Any chance of a Labour victory depends on a SNP collapse and a load of Scotish Labour MPs. Could be why he is so angry at the SNP.
 
blueparrot said:
Of course he could be angry because if Scotland goes the UK becomes a one party Tory state. Any chance of a Labour victory depends on a SNP collapse and a load of Scotish Labour MPs. Could be why he is so angry at the SNP.
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I’m not angry at the SNP other than the fact they lie about England all the time.

I want England to be independent (with wales) and hopefully the current circumstances have fucked the Tories
 
Octavian said:
Why am I a “little englander”?
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"Little Englander" was a term created by Tories back in the late 19th Century/early 20th Century to discredit those who felt the Government should not be focusing on "expanding the Empire", but more on the inequality and struggles of those living in England. A "Little Englander" was someone who did not share the idea that the British Empire should dominate more of the globe and was short-sighted in their view that Britain should control the world.

Says a lot about those who think the term "little Englander" is still an insult.

Edit: Most "Little Englanders" were Mancunian, btw.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
"Little Englander" was a term created by Tories back in the late 19th Century/early 20th Century to discredit those who felt the Government should not be focusing on "expanding the Empire", but more on the inequality and struggles of those living in England. A "Little Englander" was someone who did not share the idea that the British Empire should dominate more of the globe and was short-sighted in their view that Britain should control the world.

Says a lot about those who think the term "little Englander" is still an insult.

Edit: Most "Little Englanders" were Mancunian, btw.
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There is more than one meaning of this phrase. I think @west didsblue actually meant something closer to the one below than yours.

dictionary.cambridge.org

little Englander

1. an English person who thinks England is better than all other countries, and…
dictionary.cambridge.org dictionary.cambridge.org

I think there is a more appropriate term to describe him, but it causes him and other like-minded individuals distress, so I won't.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
"Little Englander" was a term created by Tories back in the late 19th Century/early 20th Century to discredit those who felt the Government should not be focusing on "expanding the Empire", but more on the inequality and struggles of those living in England. A "Little Englander" was someone who did not share the idea that the British Empire should dominate more of the globe and was short-sighted in their view that Britain should control the world.

Says a lot about those who think the term "little Englander" is still an insult.

Edit: Most "Little Englanders" were Mancunian, btw.
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I could be wrong, but is that not the point of West Dids original remark?
Whether it’s an insult or not, I’ll leave to yourselves though.

Little Englander:

  1. a person who opposes an international role or policy for England (or, in practice, for Britain).
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I could be wrong, but is that not the point of West Dids original remark?
Whether it’s an insult or not, I’ll leave to yourselves though.



  1. a person who opposes an international role or policy for England (or, in practice, for Britain).
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Yes, it is now. But it has also been altered to believe that having concern over ones own neighbour should not take precedent over expansion of international territory as being a negative. A little Englander cares more about their local policies, not expansionism or global policies.

Its an 'insult' by those still clinging to dreams of empire and 'Britain's place' at the top of the world. And it is not (in practice for Britain) it is specifically aimed at those who feel England and English identity should be supressed and a British Identity take precedent.
 
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