Mason Greenwood released on bail

[Deleted member 77198]

I really hope this horrendous situation will really open up a debate around partner rape and domestic violence . As a female it must be hard being male and feeling that your all tared with the same brush ?

I actually don’t think we do all get tarred with the same brush (well we do sometimes but only in “men” jokes in my experience, which are funny and are meant to be stereotypical rather than truthful). We know women don’t think that all men are like ‘this/that’.

Plus there is a minority of domestic violence perpetrators who are women as well, so we know it can work the other way. I work at a school and we do training on a number of things and domestic violence/abuse has been one of them and I remember being surprised at the stats on how many men were victims of domestic violence/abuse at the hands of women.

Domestic Violence Against Men · NCDV

While it is a general perception the pain of domestic abuse is something endured only by women, domestic violence against men is more common than often realised.

www.ncdv.org.uk

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Agree. It's not about wanting to keep a footballers lifestyle. Sometimes you can be treated like shit and snarled at and hit by your partner when they earn nothing, but somehow you stay, as it's sometimes the person you've been with for a decade or more. It's easy to blame it being wanting to stay in a nice rich house, but it's not a reality.

Agreed. It’s not always physical either. Mental abuse can be equally as damaging.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

He’s an international with over a hundred games for one of the richest and biggest clubs in the world who’s competed at a level most players never do before he was out of his teens. Obviously he’s paid well for it.

We’re currently in a contract standoff with McAtee because the club offered him - with zero professional - £8k a week and he wants £16k a week.

That’s over £4m virtually guaranteed.

Its the business they’re in.

Whatever business you're in I hope it's not the accountancy or finance business. £8k a week is £400k a year. ;-)

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Whatever business you're in I hope it's not the accountancy or finance business. £8k a week is £400k a year. ;-)

I assumed he was saying 16k per week is over £4m guaranteed when you think that he’ll get a 5 year deal minimum.

 

[jrb]

I don’t think it’s just hard for women in that situation. It’s hard for women to walk away from abusers in all walks of life.

It is, definitely.

But Women who are married or are going out with the rich and famous struggle to detach themselves form the life, lifestyle, and circle they live in. Walking away from nothing leaves nothing. Walking away from a life with everything is harder, especially when you're a young and impressionable women who has everything a young women could wish for like money, clothes, fashion, jewellery, cars, houses, night outs, fame(social media) etc. I'm not saying that is her motivation to stay with Greenwood, but walking away from all of that for anyone, never mind a young women, is hard. Hopefully she will realise there is more to life than all of that and the trappings of living with a (ex) PL footballer.

 

[mike1923]

Whatever business you're in I hope it's not the accountancy or finance business. £8k a week is £400k a year. ;-)

Suspect he means the 16k a week times by the length of the contract the boy wants …

 

[RiversideBlue]

Googling "babacar sarr ole gunnar" makes for interesting reading

 

[Silva2021]

The much publicised agreement between Southgate/Utd and Greenwood will come under intense scrutiny and if it comes out he knew about certain allegations and hid behind so called “young player development issues” then he too is a **** and should go.

If…

I disagree you are asking too much of someone, especially as you know no details.

It may be Southgate who has refused to work with him.

I’ll ask you a question, do you think Pep knew that Mendy was being investigated for rape prior to him being officially charged?

If so, do you think he should go?

For the record, I think he will have done but both him and Mendy would be employees of City. The decision was made by City at not him. I think City as a club should have suspended from the time of the arrest. However, I am not privy to the full details they have, the employment law aspect and other factors City had when making the decision for him to carry on training/ playing until officially charged.

 

[jonah62]

Yeah possibly. You hear that said a lot about giving kids too much too soon etc, there's logic to it but the vast majority of us haven't experienced it and have no real way of knowing it's impact. For me, it's just an excuse, there's plenty of footballers who are not cunts, there's even plenty that a thoroughly decent people. The money and fame probably gives them a sense of entitlement which makes a much more dangerous combination but a **** is and always will be a **** regardless in my eyes, and it appears he's one of the biggest around.

Quiz time:

Can you identify this guy and what he said when Man United went to visit him in Rome?
View attachment 35494

Answers on a postcard to the usual address.

That’s king of Paedo’s, isn’t it?

 

[Scottyboi]

Is Mainedawg2008 Brooklandsblue2.0?

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Yep, that is basically what I saw. Someone posted that this was well known in certain circles and Greenwood wasn't made available for advertising opportunities and sponsor stuff since that incident occurred.

Or international call ups

 

[mackenzie]

There’s a reason that it has taken so long to come out, and in the manner it has.

Yes, I think that's very telling too.
And if the father has known about anything similar in the past, then going off his statement today he should be ashamed.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I don’t think it’s just hard for women in that situation. It’s hard for women to walk away from abusers in all walks of life.

Very well said, mate.

 

[jrb]

Somebody on the CAF bumped this thread to continue discussing Greenwood.

Apaprently the Greenwood thread was pulled because it was a sh*tfest

Guessing, there was a minority of diehard Rags supporting and sticking up for Greenwood?

 

[chesterbells]

I actually don’t think we do all get tarred with the same brush (well we do sometimes but only in “men” jokes in my experience, which are funny and are meant to be stereotypical rather than truthful). We know women don’t think that all men are like ‘this/that’.

Plus there is a minority of domestic violence perpetrators who are women as well, so we know it can work the other way. I work at a school and we do training on a number of things and domestic violence/abuse has been one of them and I remember being surprised at the stats on how many men were victims of domestic violence/abuse at the hands of women.

Domestic Violence Against Men · NCDV

While it is a general perception the pain of domestic abuse is something endured only by women, domestic violence against men is more common than often realised.

www.ncdv.org.uk

It’s definitely a topic schools should not ignore, be it in classes or assemblies I would say. There would/should be a chance to make a big impact on some teenage boys (though I take you point about male victims too) by linking the issue to someone who most of them will know of, maybe even aspire to.
It doesn’t look like there’ll be many positives to come out of this, but maybe that could be one (in time).

 

[cheekybids]

I disagree you are asking too much of someone, especially as you know no details.

It may be Southgate who has refused to work with him.

I’ll ask you a question, do you think Pep knew that Mendy was being investigated for rape prior to him being officially charged?

If so, do you think he should go?

For the record, I think he will have done but both him and Mendy would be employees of City. The decision was made by City at not him. I think City as a club should have suspended from the time of the arrest. However, I am not privy to the full details they have, the employment law aspect and other factors City had when making the decision for him to carry on training/ playing until officially charged.

How many false stories hit the internet, Walkers Covid party that Elton Welsby tweeted about. Hudson Odoi was accused of rape & again all over the internet.

I think sometimes the stories will come out & they’ll discuss is their any truth etc etc & most times it goes away.

 

[citymad]

Yes, I think that's very telling too.
And if the father has known about anything similar in the past, then going off his statement today he should be ashamed.

I would imagine he didnt know anything about Greenwoods alleged past behavior otherwise it wouldn't look good on him at all as a Father. I can't think of many Father's that would stand for any nonsense from a boyfriend much less physical abuse.

 

[jrb]

Mason Greenwood: Women's Aid warn Man Utd the 'world is watching'

In the region of 1.5m domestic abuse cases are reported by women to the police each year. This figure is thought to have risen further during the two years of the Covid-19 outbreak.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[lonestay]

Whatever happened to the monthly meet ups between players and local "modelling talent," that a local club used to organise once a month to release tension ? Venue ( nightclub) and hotel rooms taken care off, security organised and sports agency onboard to assure no publicity?

 

[domalino]

Whatever business you're in I hope it's not the accountancy or finance business. £8k a week is £400k a year. ;-)

And £16k a week for 5 years (the value of the contract he wants) is...