Welcome Julian Alvarez | Signing confirmed on a five-and-a-half year deal

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I don't believe he is a CFG signing. The fee involved is too high for just another CFG singing.
 
MarsLlama said:
Then explain why he's staying at River Plate if we think he's so good.
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Lots of reasons I’d imagine. None of which tell us how good we think he’ll be, or how good he will when he arrives. Thinking you know our plans for him is just wild guessing.
 
Burtonblue said:
Alvarez ooooooh
Alvarez ooooooh
He comes from River Plate
Aguero is his mate

Unlike some on here I’m really exited about this one.

Sheikh Mansour flew his plane
Down to Buenos Aires
Bought us back an Argentine
Julian Suarez
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hahah like the second one julian suarez
 
MarsLlama said:
Then explain why he's staying at River Plate if we think he's so good.
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Tbf, Gabby stayed in Brazil for a few months after we signed him. The big difference with him though was that we paid £27m and were certain that we wanted him in the first team as soon as he arrived.

With Alvarez it's all a bit "Well he could be in Pep's plans but also he might not be? Some people at the club say he is, some people say he isn't". I'd hardly feel confident of staying at City if I was Alvarez.
 
youngbob said:
He paints a pretty clear picture, that some people at City think Alvarez is in our first team plans for next season, while some other people at City clearly don't. The fact that the latter camp even exists is a sign that his future at City isn't as cut and dry as some people on here would have you believe. If we're signing a 22 year old and still can't make our minds up as to whether he's good enough for the first team, why are we bothering? The answer is that he'll be worth a tidy extra £10-15m to us in a couple of years.
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Only two peoples opinions count and you don’t have the faintest clue what their opinions of this signing are.
 
MarsLlama said:
Then explain why he's staying at River Plate if we think he's so good.
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Perhaps that was part of the deal which secured the bargain price? And perhaps Pep doesn't think we need him this season....just spitballing, don't have any insight into the transfer negotiations or Peps plans, but I'm pretty sure that if he's SA footballer of the year then he has something going for him
 
I know you were all mostly kidding when you said River Plate, another CFG club but it is literally impossible. Argentinian law does not allow for football clubs to have owners, they all have to be 100% fan owned.

Also, I'm not surprised he'd want to stay in River for now, he's very much on the verge of truly making it to the World Cup squad and he's going to have a far better chance of going if he's regularly playing for River than if he's on the bench at Man City until he gets up to speed
 
youngbob said:
Tbf, Gabby stayed in Brazil for a few months after we signed him. The big difference with him though was that we paid £27m and were certain that we wanted him in the first team as soon as he arrived.

With Alvarez it's all a bit "Well he could be in Pep's plans but also he might not be? Some people at the club say he is, some people say he isn't". I'd hardly feel confident of staying at City if I was Alvarez.
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The second part of your reply has been mentioned by only Sam Lee. Any one else saying that?

This is a player who put on the no.9 shirt recently for the Argentinian national team. As you have said it's a signing very similar to Jesus. I am not sure he is going to be accepting of a divison 2 loan to be honest. Maybe this is a Torres replacement but more of a backup striker.
 
MarsLlama said:
Then explain why he's staying at River Plate if we think he's so good.
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It’ll be the reason Gabriel Jesus stayed with Palmeiras for 5 months after we’d signed him.

We signed Jesus on 3rd August 2016, yet he played the rest of the season (in Brazil they play February to October) with Palmeiras and then joined City on 19th January 2017.

We got both players on the cheap, both deals were sweetened by letting their clubs keep them until the end of the season.

Palmeiras went on to win the league and Jesus ended up as their top scorer (would they have won the league without him?). And River have just won the league with Álvares being their and the league’s top scorer, now it’s time for the domestic cups and the Copa Libertadores Group Stage (in Argentina they play the league from June to October then the start of the year is for the Cups).
 
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youngbob said:
Yep, makes good business sense. We buy him for £14m, loan him out a couple of times, raise his value to about £25m, ship him off to Celta Vigo in 2024 and Bob's yer uncle.
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Why on earth would someone in his position sign on a 5 1/2 year deal to be shipped around Europe and live out of a suitcase in hotel rooms for the next 2-3 years ?
 
casdart said:
I know you were all mostly kidding when you said River Plate, another CFG club but it is literally impossible. Argentinian law does not allow for football clubs to have owners, they all have to be 100% fan owned.

Also, I'm not surprised he'd want to stay in River for now, he's very much on the verge of truly making it to the World Cup squad and he's going to have a far better chance of going if he's regularly playing for River than if he's on the bench at Man City until he gets up to speed
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At last.
Sense!
 
casdart said:
I know you were all mostly kidding when you said River Plate, another CFG club but it is literally impossible. Argentinian law does not allow for football clubs to have owners, they all have to be 100% fan owned.

Also, I'm not surprised he'd want to stay in River for now, he's very much on the verge of truly making it to the World Cup squad and he's going to have a far better chance of going if he's regularly playing for River than if he's on the bench at Man City until he gets up to speed
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River Plate are the current Argentinian Champions - the most successful club in Argentina. Alvarez is the top division's leading scorer for 2021. Either the standard over there is rubbish and his achievements mean very little or we've signed a young, skilful player with the ability to score goals regularly for the top team in that country.
 
casdart said:
I know you were all mostly kidding when you said River Plate, another CFG club but it is literally impossible. Argentinian law does not allow for football clubs to have owners, they all have to be 100% fan owned.

Also, I'm not surprised he'd want to stay in River for now, he's very much on the verge of truly making it to the World Cup squad and he's going to have a far better chance of going if he's regularly playing for River than if he's on the bench at Man City until he gets up to speed
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Finally a completely sane opinion.
 
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