"Freedom" marches/rallies

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Happening in a number of locations across the globe - this bunch in Canada are flying Trump flags ffs - its R/W extremist bullshit - for me the easiest way to stop it is to block them in - they will run out of patience and diesel eventually then just keep them there and impound their trucks, their way of making a living, as they slope off tail between their legs. The selfishness of their actions is clear and I am sure that the population at large will support the authorities.

www.bbc.co.uk

Canada trucker protest: Ottawa declares emergency

The Canadian capital's mayor says the city is out of control, with more protesters than police.
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History repeats itself over and over again.

Protests hijacked by the far right. Very little mention of this in the TV media.
 
Trump flags aside, where you see on what side of the political divide protestors sit, do we do what our government wants and start to ban protests we don’t like or agree with or do we accept them as part and parcel f the democracy we live in?
 
mat said:
History repeats itself over and over again.

Protests hijacked by the far right. Very little mention of this in the TV media.
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Good. Just ignore them. Give them no publicity.
 
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blueinsa said:
Trump flags aside, where you see on what side of the political divide protestors sit, do we do what our government wants and start to ban protests we don’t like or agree with or do we accept them as part and parcel f the democracy we live in?
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If they are peaceful then people have every right. When they get violent, that’s not a protest, it’s a riot.

I’m expecting some of the latter soon.
 
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If they are peaceful then people have every right. When they get violent, that’s not a protest, it’s a riot.

I’m expecting some of the latter soon.
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That’s my stance on it as well, including over here.

Once the law is broken, the right to peaceful protest is given up imo.
 
Seems the support for the right to protest varies according to the perceived political alignment of the protesters. These are working class people protesting against government policies that restrict fundamental rights and the left is busy calling for them to be punished for it. Do you people have no principles left at all?
 
hgblue said:
Seems the support for the right to protest varies according to the perceived political alignment of the protesters. These are working class people protesting against government policies that restrict fundamental rights and the left is busy calling for them to be punished for it. Do you people have no principles left at all?
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It’s a funny old game to coin a phrase isn’t it. One week is all about oppressive governments and how dare they try and stop a protest and the next, “well fuck em, they had a flag, got to be right wing racists so let’s kettle the cunts up”.

If it’s lawful, it’s all fine by me regardless of who or why they are on the streets.
 
I doubt I'd support their aims and imagine that there is a fair chance they contain elements linked to the lunatic Trump/QAnon/Libertarian lunatics that have gripped certain elements of the US.

However, as long as they protest within reason and without malice, they have a right to do so.

Obviously the next part is pure speculation, but I would also have big money on most of their number not being similarly sympathetic to the right to protest/match for climate protestors, black rights or anything they consider 'liberal'.
 
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hgblue said:
Seems the support for the right to protest varies according to the perceived political alignment of the protesters. These are working class people protesting against government policies that restrict fundamental rights and the left is busy calling for them to be punished for it. Do you people have no principles left at all?
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Far from it - these "lost" freedom's are in fact restriction brought in by the Govt by law - that is not how we change the law here
These have going on through lockdown in flagrant breach of lockdown rules - it seemed to anger some when it was BLM but now its ok?
Outside forces are at work here - be it in our streets to those of Canada and in Europe - there are Trump flags being carried in some places
Today's what you refer to as protest was an unwarranted assault on the Leader of the Opposition fomented by the suggestions of the PM - thats banana republic behaviour
What you refer to as protest is in fact a breach of section 5 of the public order act - a man was sent to jail for doing the same to Chris Whitty.
Opposition to these marches and convoys is in fact very principled.
 
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hgblue said:
Seems the support for the right to protest varies according to the perceived political alignment of the protesters. These are working class people protesting against government policies that restrict fundamental rights and the left is busy calling for them to be punished for it. Do you people have no principles left at all?
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Eh? Everybody should have the right to protest, regardless of who they are. The right to riot or attack others (physically or verbally) should not be condoned.
 
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It all got out of hand when they started protesting for the release of the Weatherfield One.

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could have just written nutters - it would have been just as accurate

Who were the protesters?​

Analysis by Shayan Sardarizadeh, BBC Monitoring
Today's protest in Westminster was an attempt to replicate the "freedom convoy" in Canada's capital in recent days.
But unlike the protest in Ottawa, the UK rally was small. Familiar faces from anti-vaccine rallies that have been held during the pandemic were in attendance.
The small gathering outside the headquarters of the Metropolitan Police had been relatively quiet up until Sir Keir was surrounded.
Amid shouts of "traitor" and references to Jimmy Savile and paedophiles, the Labour leader was accused by one protester of "ignoring our Magna Carta".
This a familiar theme used by followers of the so-called "sovereign citizen" movement.
They believe they can opt out of laws - including Covid restrictions - by invoking a clause in Magna Carta - the royal charter of rights signed in 1215.
They have handed fake legal documents to health workers and teachers to try to stop Covid vaccinations and some have even tried to remove Covid patients from intensive care wards, citing non-existent "common law" empowering them to do so.
 
bluethrunthru said:
could have just written nutters - it would have been just as accurate

Who were the protesters?​

Analysis by Shayan Sardarizadeh, BBC Monitoring
Today's protest in Westminster was an attempt to replicate the "freedom convoy" in Canada's capital in recent days.
But unlike the protest in Ottawa, the UK rally was small. Familiar faces from anti-vaccine rallies that have been held during the pandemic were in attendance.
The small gathering outside the headquarters of the Metropolitan Police had been relatively quiet up until Sir Keir was surrounded.
Amid shouts of "traitor" and references to Jimmy Savile and paedophiles, the Labour leader was accused by one protester of "ignoring our Magna Carta".
This a familiar theme used by followers of the so-called "sovereign citizen" movement.
They believe they can opt out of laws - including Covid restrictions - by invoking a clause in Magna Carta - the royal charter of rights signed in 1215.
They have handed fake legal documents to health workers and teachers to try to stop Covid vaccinations and some have even tried to remove Covid patients from intensive care wards, citing non-existent "common law" empowering them to do so.
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So, wankers in short.
 
hgblue said:
Seems the support for the right to protest varies according to the perceived political alignment of the protesters. These are working class people protesting against government policies that restrict fundamental rights and the left is busy calling for them to be punished for it. Do you people have no principles left at all?
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I 100% support there right to protest even though they are likely RW nutters.

With the new laws in this country though it couldnt happen here because of the RW nutters like Patel.
 
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