A no man's land where most will not be giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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95% of yank cases are settled before court , it is not a criminal case , she has forced him to settle therefore admitting he is in the wrong and he has had to give her probably several million to her charity , he knew he had no leg to stand on at a trial
but what does it say to the others wanting her to fight to the end for justice
this fight was not just for her but the many others that never get the media backing or have money to fight the system.
she has let them down and he walks any with a clean slate because of the gagging order place on her
its a very sad day for all them other ladies and kids that looked up to her in hope that there day will come
What I can't understand is that she seemed absolutely adamant she would take it to court and that no money offer in any settlement would stop her. I understand with negotiations that you go for a high ask first, whilst always secretly knowing what lower ask is acceptable (and not going below) but I can't understand why she didn't take it to court.
Was she warned by her advisers that her "grooming" of other girls was a really weak point in her case and that it might have been used by the defence?
Was she warned by her advisers that her "grooming" of other girls was a really weak point in her case and that it might have been used by the defence?
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I don't see it as simple as her selling out. I suspect that there was enormous establishment pressure placed on her to take the deal. There's a fair chance they have something on her that will now remain a secret as part of the settlement.she has sold out and its why the system is fucked ? many woman was hoping she would take it all the way and hoped to be a leading light in the fight. but sadly its now she is seen as a money grabber that does not care about anybody but herself ?
greedy and am not sorry for her ? she got what she always wanted out of this
So the nonce gets away with it from a legal standpoint. However his reputation is shredded and he's lost all his royal privileges which he won't like.
It's shit but I'm not even remotely surprised.
Think that is a harsh assessment.she has sold out and its why the system is fucked ? many woman was hoping she would take it all the way and hoped to be a leading light in the fight. but sadly its now she is seen as a money grabber that does not care about anybody but herself ?
greedy and am not sorry for her ? she got what she always wanted out of this
She would have been subjected to a vicious cross examination, there is credible evidence that she recruited other young girls into this network. That I think was her weak spot on this, Andrew would have been destroyed under cross examination but she would not have got out unscathed.
A no man's land where most will not be giving him the benefit of the doubt.
he is untouchable now and anybody questions him or this case will be liable
benefit of the doubt hahahah he does not give a shit. the system is still in tack and long live the queen
kaz7
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The later is not part of this civil case , it is about her being a victim .What I can't understand is that she seemed absolutely adamant she would take it to court and that no money offer in any settlement would stop her. I understand with negotiations that you go for a high ask first, whilst always secretly knowing what lower ask is acceptable (and not going below) but I can't understand why she didn't take it to court.
Was she warned by her advisers that her "grooming" of other girls was a really weak point in her case and that it might have been used by the defence?
95% settle and she has made him pay a fortune to her charity so she can help other women and girls
There have been lots of versions of her story over the years and it appears that there is no original version of the photo of Andrew with his arm around her waist at Maxwells London house so maybe her legal team weren’t overly confident of winning the court case.
It’s the only logical reason I can see for her settling for a payment to her charity.
i can 100% say her charity is paying her a wage ? and she will also get a VERY BIG pay off with a gagging order
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Justice system is unfit for purpose.
Cash is king.
No sweat to Andrew.
It won’t be the first gag Virginia has taken.
The whole episode is unsavoury.
Cash is king.
No sweat to Andrew.
It won’t be the first gag Virginia has taken.
The whole episode is unsavoury.
Biggest winner out of this?
Kurt Zouma.
Offended Twitter has a new target.
Bloody twitter. Can't even film yourself abusing cats or get outed for raping teenage girls without Twitter people saying they're against such things.
Who knows what methods the defence might have tried to discredit her in court. It goes on all the time and I wouldn't have been surprised if the defence had tried it.The later is not part of this civil case , it is about her being a victim .
95% settle and she has made him pay a fortune to her charity so she can help other women and girls
kaz7
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That is not what they are saying ,the lawyer for five of epsteins victims have tweeted out great praise of her just now , you are not getting this at allbut what does it say to the others wanting her to fight to the end for justice
this fight was not just for her but the many others that never get the media backing or have money to fight the system.
she has let them down and he walks any with a clean slate because of the gagging order place on her
its a very sad day for all them other ladies and kids that looked up to her in hope that there day will come
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Bloody Bluemoon, can’t even make a sarcastic comment without its resident robot replying.Bloody twitter. Can't even film yourself abusing cats or get outed for raping teenage girls without Twitter people saying they're against such things.
Justice system is unfit for purpose.
Cash is king.
No sweat to Andrew.
It won’t be the first gag Virginia has taken.
The whole episode is unsavoury.
spot on
money talks
but it don't sing or dance and it cant walk
there is credible evidence that she recruited other young girls into this network. That I think was her weak spot on this
This is not true. Forcing abuse victims to get other people involved is a very common technique in grooming rings and Epstein had been using it for decades. None of the girls who did it have gotten in trouble because everyone recognises it's part of the abuse.
That is not what they are saying ,the lawyer for five of epsteins victims have tweeted out great praise of her just now , you are not getting this at all
the victims are happy to be paid off ?? that what just happened
kaz7
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He cant prove he was at the pizza place or that he cant sweat , also the car crash newsnight interview , he has caved , what you are talking about is not relevant in a civil caseWho knows what methods the defence might have tried to discredit her in court. It goes on all the time and I wouldn't have been surprised if the defence had tried it.
Bloody Bluemoon, can’t even make a sarcastic comment without it’s resident robot replying.
Sarcasm doesn't really work if you just express a commonly voiced opinion on the forum.
kaz7
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Finally someone gets itThis is not true. Forcing abuse victims to get other people involved is a very common technique in grooming rings and Epstein had been using it for decades. None of the girls who did it have gotten in trouble because everyone recognises it's part of the abuse.