Russian invasion of Ukraine

Proven to be untrue on both Countd
There is no shortage of evidence that the Russians tried to influence the 2016 presidential election in favour of Trump. The only thing not proven is whether or not he won because of that. Similarly there’s plenty of evidence that Leave.Eu’s biggest donor, Arron Banks, was funnelling Russian money to the campaign. Nothing proven but the beneficiaries of the vote are now in power so it’s likely the whole story will take time to come out in full.

So no absolute proof that it’s true but certainly no proof it wasn’t and plenty of evidence that supports the view that they did it.
 
Ukraine must be pretty tooled up by now with other countries sending weapons and what not. I doubt the Russian public have much of an appetite for this invasion to start with and that should weaken further once their sons and daughters bodies start being shipped home.
 
How do you know that! We have not seen the Russian report and there are other investigative pieces of work into the close connection.
I wait with baited breath for the aforementioned Reports -which will no doubt be being done by a completely neutral party (Yeah Right)
 
I wait with baited breath for the aforementioned Reports -which will no doubt be being done by a completely neutral party (Yeah Right)
The US one was done by and signed both parties and it’s lead investigator was a Republican. Stop getting your news from Infowars and Breitbart.
 
Russian influence is behind Brexit and Trump's election. Divide and rule is the oldest tactic.
Putin’s influence is wide and clear. He wants to destabilise the West and with his tentacles in every European economy we’ll now see how they react. I’m fairly certain that the EU is their biggest trading partner with the likes of ourselves, Germany and Holland major contributors; France have been fostering greater expansion in this area.

After what we have seen with Putin influencing voting in certain Western countries, this is the perfect time to further fracture inter-Western alliances.
 
Ukraine must be pretty tooled up by now with other countries sending weapons and what not. I doubt the Russian public have much of an appetite for this invasion to start with and that should weaken further once their sons and daughters bodies start being shipped home.

The Ukrainian army stand absolute no chance against Russia alone.

You are talking about a force of a few hundred thousand Vs two million.
 
Western countries need to completely cut Russia off, hit them where it hurts financially; refuse to import from them, freeze russian international assets. Then back Ukraine and give them whatever they need to defend themselves.

Once Russian's start losing jobs and dying for pieces of land that don't belong to them you get the feeling the Russian's could turn on him.

Putin's overstepped.
 
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They get into everything to break up what they perceive as the enemy. I don't think the West is without disgraceful behaviour either.
The West have done nothing wrong with WRT Ukraine, what we have done wrong is accept tainted money for our own means.

That‘s capitalism at its best.
 
Russia will be fast transformed into North Korea 2.0, no way the rest of the world will accept this bullshit.
 
Western countries need to completely cut Russia off, hit them where it hurts financially, refuse to import from them. Then back Ukraine and give them whatever they need to defend themselves.

Once Russian's start losing jobs and dying for pieces of land that don't belong to them you get the feeling the Russian's could turn on him.

Putin's overstepped.
It’s so wrong that the Russian people, who have been through so much, could be in that position.
 
There is no shortage of evidence that the Russians tried to influence the 2016 presidential election in favour of Trump. The only thing not proven is whether or not he won because of that. Similarly there’s plenty of evidence that Leave.Eu’s biggest donor, Arron Banks, was funnelling Russian money to the campaign. Nothing proven but the beneficiaries of the vote are now in power so it’s likely the whole story will take time to come out in full.

So no absolute proof that it’s true but certainly no proof it wasn’t and plenty of evidence that supports the view that they did
The US one was done by and signed both parties and it’s lead investigator was a Republican. Stop getting your news from Infowars and Breitbart.
I voted in the Referendum and millions of others did with absolutely no influence from Russia whatsoever. What I was subjected to was millions of pounds worth of Taxpayers Money of broadcasting telling me to Vote for Remain with absolutely nothing at the o
 
I voted in the Referendum and millions of others did with absolutely no influence from Russia whatsoever. What I was subjected to was millions of pounds worth of Taxpayers Money of broadcasting telling me to Vote for Remain with absolutely nothing at the other end of the scale saying otherwise (though staying officially neutral)
 

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