Russian invasion of Ukraine

domalino said:
Sanctions are a two way street. There are plenty of people who could suggest all the ways to bring Russia to its knees with sanctions, but there's an economic cost for that that unfortunately governments will try to avoid.

That's why they always talk about ratcheting them up and never delivering crippling sanctions all in one wave.

BBC Radio had someone on today that said that in Italy the government thinks the economic hit from heavy sanctions will bring about an early election and they'll lose - so obviously they're going to be trying to get away with as little as possible.
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We're all so interconnected now that it's hard to place sanctions on Russia that don't result in self harm for us.
 
sandinista said:
Seen this before , and other videos of this guy . He's a voice in the wilderness but should be listened to .
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Was weird, it came on my phone automatically after watching another video, and it’s basically everything I feel about NATO, the US and the current situation. I’ll have a look for some more, are the others worth a listen?
 
argyle said:
Carlson is as close to a white supremiscist as you can get away with on tv. Russians have been bank rolling various far-right groups, it's no wonder they take this approach.

Even had Steve Bannon praising him and over here we have Nigel Farage blaming the west.

The thing is though that the far-left are also refusing to blame Putin. Are they directly/indirectly taking money from Russian sources?

Two sides of the same coin who unfortunately dominate the space on social media.
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White supremacist? Far right?

Fucking hell people these days...
 
Ukraine Path is fucked either way, if they didn't join Nato they will for all intent and purpose a satellite state for Russia but if they want to join they will get invade by Russia to prevent them to joining Nato.
 
kaz7 said:
I said similar pages ago girlbob when people were hoping the people will rise up , why take the risk when you face disappearing
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you didn’t believe Russian people would rise up. And yet they are.

they are not cowering away in silence and are taking to the streets to protests - Ukraine and the West need more brave Russians to stand up to Putin.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
you didn’t believe Russian people would rise up. And yet they are.

they are not cowering away in silence and are taking to the streets to protests - Ukraine and the West need more brave Russians to stand up to Putin.
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And are disappearing just as quickly.

CNN showed just five minutes ago people being rounded up and put in vans by police on streets of Moscow.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
you didn’t believe Russian people would rise up. And yet they are.

they are not cowering away in silence and are taking to the streets to protests - Ukraine and the West need more brave Russians to stand up to Putin.
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You being right does not mean it is a good idea when you live in a dictatorship with very harsh secret police who make you disappear now is it
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
And are disappearing just as quickly.

CNN showed just five minutes ago people being rounded up and put in vans by police on streets of Moscow.
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and that is no suprise to anyone.

Russians know the consequences for protesting but they know they must.
Hiding in silence will only empower Putin more.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
you didn’t believe Russian people would rise up. And yet they are.

they are not cowering away in silence and are taking to the streets to protests - Ukraine and the West need more brave Russians to stand up to Putin.
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True. Then how long before the right-wing nationalist thugs who support Putin come out to beat them up while the cops stand and watch?
 
Biggest mobilisation of troops since world war 2. Incredible scenes that we are seeing as Russia goes about its business destroying Ukraine. What do you think the end gane will be ? I think he will put his own government in .
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Picture the scene at the Russian troop instructions this morning....

Sergei, you go here. Anatoly, over there.

Dimitri, you're off to Chernobyl...
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Im actually ok with the Russians getting control of Chernobyl quickly, the last thing you want is some desperate Ukrainians doing something stupid as a last resort with the only nuclear thing they have.

Russia can’t do anything with it but will take troops off the board keeping it.
 
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