Russian invasion of Ukraine

bluesteel said:
Erm, the protests about the election fraud were in 2004.

This guy was elected into power in 2010, over that Star Wars hair looking president lady.

Coup was in 2014.

You’re literally making things up to support your opinion here.
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www.nytimes.com

Premier Says Fraud Tainted Ukraine Vote (Published 2010)

Yulia V. Tymoshenko said that she would not concede in the country's presidential election, saying that more than one million votes were falsified in the balloting.
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May the best manipulator win : 2004 and 2010 Ukrainian presidential elections revisited

Ukraine is currently in the throes of revolution. Will this popular uprising move Ukraine closer to the West and a democratic government or strengthen the country's ties to Putin and Russia? Viktor Yanukovich's second round victory in the 2004 presidential election was nullified by Ukraine's...
repositories.lib.utexas.edu repositories.lib.utexas.edu

“Unfortunately, a new evaluation of both the 2004 and 2010 elections presents a much less encouraging view of Ukrainian politics. As shown in this paper, electoral manipulation was present in both the 2004 and 2010 elections.”

Don’t accuse me of literally doing something I’ve literally not done, ta.

And in 2014
voxukraine.org

Election fraud in 2014 Parliamentary Elections

On October 26, 2014, Ukraine had snap elections to Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine’s parliament. A key reason for the snap elections...
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edition.cnn.com

Polls close in eastern Ukraine amid allegations of fraud and double-voting | CNN

Polls closed Sunday in eastern Ukraine in controversial referendums held by pro-Russian activists.
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Psychedelic Casual said:
He could barely hold his arm up to point at who he wanted to speak and then barely answered a question. It was like he was completely unprepared and didn’t know what he was talking about. Even Boris looked informed and prepared today.

Think Jens Stoltenberg is the man to listen to during this crisis. Biden fills me with no confidence at all.
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Biden is weak, perhaps the weakest US president ever, he’s a joke FFS!
 
BlueAnorak said:
The Russian standing army is now largely professional. Even the National Guard is a volunteer based organisation.
The Russian military has been totally restructured over the last 14 years.
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still might as well pay them in dog turds and and soil - it will be worth the same as a rouble
 
Oldham Exile said:
Fucking non-stop with you

Can this thread not focus on the events in the Ukraine?

There are so many other threads to score these points

The hatred/dislike for Johnson and the Tories is widespread amongst us - but does it need to be distracting this thread?
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calm down calm down - just expressing my opinion
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
He could barely hold his arm up to point at who he wanted to speak and then barely answered a question. It was like he was completely unprepared and didn’t know what he was talking about. Even Boris looked informed and prepared today.

Think Jens Stoltenberg is the man to listen to during this crisis. Biden fills me with no confidence at all.
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This is what happens when it's anybody but Trump in the election....at least he beat Trump, can you imagine what this telecast would have been like if he'd still been in the White House.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
This is what happens when it's anybody but Trump in the election....at least he beat Trump, can you imagine what this telecast would have been like if he'd still been in the White House.
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well for a start were Trump involved he would have taken part from a room in the Kremlin lol
 
blue b4 the moon said:
This is what happens when it's anybody but Trump in the election....at least he beat Trump, can you imagine what this telecast would have been like if he'd still been in the White House.
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Although I cannot stand Trump and have zero respect for him whatsoever, I genuinely believe Ukraine would not have been invaded had Trump still been president? Why? Because he would have threatened Putin with military action, possibly even a nuclear response, and he is barking mad enough that Putin would not have dared risk it.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Although I cannot stand Trump and have zero respect for him whatsoever, I genuinely believe Ukraine would not have been invaded had Trump still been president? Why? Because he would have threatened Putin with military action, possibly even a nuclear response, and he is barking mad enough that Putin would not have dared risk it.
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Danger is I think he would have gone through with one too lol
 

Psychedelic Casual said:
Very brave and good on them! Opposing their own govt under the threat of being ‘disappeared’, when we even have people on Bluemoon excusing Putin and accusing NATO.
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To be fair there might be a few of them who think fuck it I can't even suggest Putin is any way out of order without being labelled a NATO apologist.
 
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