“According to [the number one disinformation spreader in the world] it was illegal”.Yes, when we have a general election the previous government is voted out.
But we’re talking about Ukraine in 2014, if protestors were to storm parliament, take control of the Houses of Parliament and Downing Street and Boris fled to France, then months later someone else is appointed prime minister, Boris wasn’t voted out, it’s called a coup, and if there is no legal basis for it (treason and another I can’t remember), it’s illegal.
And that’s what happened. According to Russia it was illegal.
I said:
“You mean the government who the Russians say was illegally ousted in the 2014 coup and fled to Russia? Or a different one?”
To another poster asking if Russia will put a president in if they take Kiev.
You said
“When you say illegally ousted you mean voted out by free democratic elections - albeit not all the country participated due to Crimea being occupied so couldn’t.”
Which is being argumentative and isn’t factually correct at all, as there was a coup, not a vote, also, Crimea hadn’t even been annexed when the coup happened, so just complete nonsense really.
You then went on to say there was election fraud and he shouldn’t have even been there, which has no bearing to anything I said at all, and isn’t factual in any case.
Yet I’m being argumentative, I wasn’t even talking to you.
Costly both in money and lives, lengthy and will indirectly empower China even further which the US doesn't want!Ukraine seem to be completely on their own. Sanctions are only doing so much.
I guess others countries don’t want to get involved militarily because of a fear of a larger war
So he wasn't all bad then :-)
Not forgetting that before all that, Yanukovych had put all his opposition party leaders in prison.Revisionism at it's finest.
Don't forget the bit where the president backs out of a deal to align Ukraine with the European Union (which a significant majority of the population wanted). He then chooses to align with Russia (which nobody wanted).
He then starts killing protesters that don't agree with him.
He then runs to the enemy to hide from his actions. He then gets said enemy to invade his country whilst he pisses off to join them in the middle of the night.
Parliament then vote him out because he's effectively resigned by declaring war on his own country anyway.
Said president did also sign an agreement for early elections before fleeing. Simply put he fled before being on the end of a landslide loss.
If Boris did all that then the same thing would absolutely happen.
Also none of the above is why Putin is invading because simply put he doesn't even want Ukraine to exist.
Putin doesn’t acknowledge Ukraine as a sovereign state.Fixed
The Chinese will just infect us.As unsettling as Putin is, he's not the overriding threat to world stability.........the Chinese sitting in the background and Trump as next President are.
The Chinese will gradually take control by stealth and manipulation and not waste money and valuable resources on needless wars. They have a vast military and like Putin, they will use that as a 'dare to stop us', intimidation tactic. They'll be like a big Boa Constrictor, just squeeze and squeeze.
Trump would divide and weaken their most powerful adversary to pave the way for them.
As with Russia, we have been keen to assist building them up and we will pay dearly as a consequence.
Not sure if this has been asked before but apologies if it has. Will Gazprom still be allowed to sponsor UEFA games?
Send in an assassin.Sky have just said the relevant people will look at war crimes committed in Ukraine yes like putin gives a fuck no one’s going to arrest him
Are they going to ring the doorbell of the Kremlin and say come on now we want a word with you
Think people are worried about fucking them off from Swift might financially align them more with China, it’s heartbreaking, met some great people when I was working over there.Fuck them out of Swift, World Cup qualifiers, ParaOlympics, every facet of wider society.
These sanctions are doing nothing but telling Ukraine they are on their own, barring usual lip service and empty gestures lighting up monuments in Ukraine colours.
The least we can do is rub them off the map when it comes to being a participant in the rest of society.
Tell them to do one.Not sure if this has been asked before but apologies if it has. Will Gazprom still be allowed to sponsor UEFA games?
Send in an assassin.
Russia has not taken any of its major objectives in the first 24 hours of its invasion of Ukraine and has lost more than 450 personnel, according to the UK's defence secretary.