Russian invasion of Ukraine

Right - what happened to Brexit? We took back control. Kick the ambassador out - shut down the embassy - make trading with illegal with a prison term attached - the EU is split ( and I was a Remainer so not happy but ) tell the Italians and Germans they do the same or no VW's nor parts, no Bosch white goods and no German airlines are welcome - same with Italy - stick you 500's and your wine you are not acting proportionately.

If Brexit and global Britain means anything we need strong action and coercion to demonstrate we have clout and we are decisive - if not fuck it sorry Ukraine and EU you have really let the side down
 
Octavian said:
Absolutely fuck all to do with British taxpayers in 2022 and India didn’t even exist as a country until the British turned up. It was several rival kingdoms.

They can afford to send people to space but cannot afford to feed their poor so our taxpayers should?

No chance.
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again another country who should feel the international effects of their decisions - if they cannot step up and support our support for Ukraine what makes them think they are deserving of our support going forward? I understand the soft diplomacy that comes with financial aid but its a 2 way street - if a country wants our aid but then doesn't want to support us back then what are we supporting them for?
 
Octavian said:
Absolutely fuck all to do with British taxpayers in 2022 and India didn’t even exist as a country until the British turned up. It was several rival kingdoms.

They can afford to send people to space but cannot afford to feed their poor so our taxpayers should?

No chance.
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We are a wealthy country due to exploiting the empire. They only existed as a country once the british left actually.
 
Corky said:
We are a wealthy country due to exploiting the empire. They only existed as a country once the british left actually.
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You only get an empire by being wealthy in the first place, dear.

They were never a country before Britain arrived, you are right, and they’ve benefited from our advancements but we committed atrocities.

So where does that leave us?

By not charging our taxpayers is my opinion.
 
NATO must have a fair number of jets patrolling the border with russia, there have been at least 3 air tankers flying circuits in northern Romania, and eastern Poland for most of today, mostly US planes out of Mildenhall, but a couple of ours as well.

There's also a US drone patrolling the Black Sea off Crimea at very high level.

(All these can be viewed on flightradar24 on the free internet, so the russians will also know this.)
 
Octavian said:
You only get an empire by being wealthy in the first place, dear.

They were never a country before Britain arrived, you are right, and they’ve benefited from our advancements but we committed atrocities.

So where does that leave us?

By not charging our taxpayers is my opinion.
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I'd tend to disagree with the first bit tbh - Indian princes were dripping with wealth - as were the South American civilizations - what they lacked was the understanding of a greater world outside their borders and the ambition to conquer - you could argue Inca wealth if turned to ships - soldiers - sailors and expansionism could have sailed across the Atlantic and laid waste to Spain ( and a lot of southern Europe probably ) they simply lacked the knowledge and the desire - by the time they wised up it was too late
 
BlueHammer85 said:
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Wishful thinking at this stage, but I think he's made a big mistake in thinking this would be easy because NATO wouldn't fight, and they won't, but he totally underestimated the Ukrainians, and they will go to guerilla warfare, and that won't be pretty from 20 story buildings (ironically built by the soviets).
 
argyle said:
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At the end of the day money talks, China are making an arse load at the moment and they don't want the apple cart upsetting. Along with the oligarchs, this should be the cunts downfall. The world has changed from WW2, there is a global economy and too many people are losing dosh for this to carry on.
 
Octavian said:
You only get an empire by being wealthy in the first place, dear.

They were never a country before Britain arrived, you are right, and they’ve benefited from our advancements but we committed atrocities.

So where does that leave us?

By not charging our taxpayers is my opinion.
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Britain was not a country in the 17th century either.

I see you are an advocate of the White Man's Burden and a learned historian so I bow to your superior knowledge.
 
Going to get pelters regarding the UAE abstaining. Football not important in the grand scheme but it’s not a great look to be fair and will shine a light on City.

I try to not mix politics with my football, but this has stung a bit.
 
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