Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Kiss this guy]

Putin is laughing at all of us. We've voted in weak willed clowns to govern us and, coupled with everyone turning into wet fanny wipes over covid, we've created a perfect storm where Russia can do what the fuck they want without fear of consequence or retribution.

This is what happens when you fixate on wokism, inclusivity, diversity and social justice. Light your candles, unfurl your banners, march down the street, tearfully applaud Footballers.










Putin doesn't give a fuck.

 

[metalblue]

I'm astonished some people don't realise this.

Military involvement by NATO must be the very last resort, ie, if Russia actually attacks a NATO country.

What's happening in Ukraine is awful. A war between NATO and Russia would be immeasurably worse. A conventional war would have only one outcome... a crushing defeat for Russia. Then, when all is lost for them there is only one military option left for Russia and that leads effectively to the end of civilisation as we know it.

Article 5 is an attack on a NATO member, if attacking UK soldiers constitutes an attack on a NATO member why didn’t Iraq or Afghan trigger article 5 when UK soldiers died? It surely has to be an attack on the country

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Cheers bud.

Yes - it was Ursula van der Leyen in a televised press conference/announcement. Was also shown on the BBC.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Putin is laughing at all of us. We've voted in weak willed clowns to govern us and, coupled with everyone turning into wet fanny wipes over covid, we've created a perfect storm where Russia can do what the fuck they want without fear of consequence or retribution.

This is what happens when you fixate on wokism, inclusivity, diversity and social justice. Light your candles, unfurl your banners, march down the street, tearfully applaud Footballers.










Putin doesn't give a fuck.

what a pathetic post

 

[domalino]

This is going nuclear, Russia won’t attack a NATO country conventionally, the first missiles they fire will be hypersonic.

IMO The fearmongdring about Russia’s super duper Better than anyone else’s nuclear missiles really is getting to the point of comedy when we’re seeing their 4th gen fighters get shot out of the sky by Ukrainian 3rd gens and armoured convoys being wiped out with 40 year old javelins.

The US and NATO have been outspending Russia 20-to-1 for 30 years and I find it beyond credibility that their nuclear technology has outstripped everyone else’s when the evidence shows they’ve not managed to keep up on cheaper and simpler areas of defence.

The line you keep trying to spin that MAD isn’t going to be mutual because Russias got better nuclear weapons doesn’t convince, if I had to guess it’s the opposite and Russia knows it.

 

[cleavers]

Thank you for making me smile. :-) Plus (multitasking as I am) I read it just as I was watching Phil score on MOTD!
I am calming down again as I accept that there is nothing I can do except pray and hope for peace.
Thank you @cleavers again.

No problem :)

 

[BlueRockape]

I’ve never fought, well not apart from Stamford bridge, elland road, st James park and the swamp etc, but I’d quite like to go and shoot some fucking russians

As two 65 year olds we are out of touch with some of today's weapons systems but give us an

SLR
GPMG
66
50 MILL
81 MILL
50 CALL
Will cause problems the field craft is still there but the brain and body ain't :(

 

[Bill Walker]

There's plenty of rich Russians that have been enjoying the fruits of capitalism that will be very pissed off at the mo.

Cant they get a plan together and poison the ugly round faced dwarf **** ?

 

[bluesteel]

Article 5 is an attack on a NATO member, if attacking UK soldiers constitutes an attack on a NATO member why didn’t Iraq or Afghan trigger article 5 when UK soldiers died? It surely has to be an attack on the country

No, not even that, the country has to request help, and it only applies above the Tropic of Cancer, and only mainland. Cape Verde not included for example. See Falklands.

 

[domalino]

Article 5 is an attack on a NATO member, if attacking UK soldiers constitutes an attack on a NATO member why didn’t Iraq or Afghan trigger article 5 when UK soldiers died? It surely has to be an attack on the country

Don’t think repelling an invasion by NATO member troops can trigger article 5, I think you have to attack the country itself.

 

[mexico1970]

As two 65 year olds we are out of touch with some of today's weapons systems but give us an

SLR
GPMG
66
50 MILL
81 MILL
50 CALL
Will cause problems the field craft is still there but the brain and body ain't :(

The GPMG was my personal weapon, bit of a bugger to lug around ;)

 

[Blootoof]

wait until they try and use an ATM or their card to buy a Prada bag

Shit on Ebay from their Chinese friends. 6 months to turn up.

 

[bluethrunthru]

As two 65 year olds we are out of touch with some of today's weapons systems but give us an

SLR
GPMG
66
50 MILL
81 MILL
50 CALL
Will cause problems the field craft is still there but the brain and body ain't :(

Good news for you is MRE rations are much better now than you will recall

 

[mexico1970]

Good news for you is MRE rations are much better now than you will recall

No ciggies in them now, we got cigs in tins :)

 

[BlueRockape]

The GPMG was my personal weapon, bit of a bugger to lug around ;)

A fukin pain in the arse.
But when you needed to put it down nothing better.
SF So good

 

[bluesteel]

IMO The fearmongdring about Russia’s super duper Better than anyone else’s nuclear missiles really is getting to the point of comedy when we’re seeing their 4th gen fighters get shot out of the sky by Ukrainian 3rd gens and armoured convoys being wiped out with 40 year old javelins.

The US and NATO have been outspending Russia 20-to-1 for 30 years and I find it beyond credibility that their nuclear technology has outstripped everyone else’s when the evidence shows they’ve not managed to keep up on cheaper and simpler areas of defence.

The line you keep trying to spin that MAD isn’t going to be mutual because Russias got better nuclear weapons doesn’t convince, if I had to guess it’s the opposite and Russia knows it.

Keep? That’s the first time I’ve mentioned it, and wasn’t my point anyway, it’s that I think they’ll strike first if it comes to a war with NATO, and I think they’ll go nuclear first, I don’t see what other option they have other than surrender.

 

[hello]

IMO The fearmongdring about Russia’s super duper Better than anyone else’s nuclear missiles really is getting to the point of comedy when we’re seeing their 4th gen fighters get shot out of the sky by Ukrainian 3rd gens and armoured convoys being wiped out with 40 year old javelins.

The US and NATO have been outspending Russia 20-to-1 for 30 years and I find it beyond credibility that their nuclear technology has outstripped everyone else’s when the evidence shows they’ve not managed to keep up on cheaper and simpler areas of defence.

The line you keep trying to spin that MAD isn’t going to be mutual because Russias got better nuclear weapons doesn’t convince, if I had to guess it’s the opposite and Russia knows it.

Assuming that’s the dickhead I blocked but by better he means most. In reality if Putin did go full nuclear it’s likely 40-60% fail to detonate or explode over Russian airspace. However that’s still a huge nuclear winter for 85+% of the world

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Actually quite a few do, 2 russian air force troop carriers headed into Belarus just recently.

From Russia or Ukraine?

 

[WesthoughtonJohn]

IMO The fearmongdring about Russia’s super duper Better than anyone else’s nuclear missiles really is getting to the point of comedy when we’re seeing their 4th gen fighters get shot out of the sky by Ukrainian 3rd gens and armoured convoys being wiped out with 40 year old javelins.

The US and NATO have been outspending Russia 20-to-1 for 30 years and I find it beyond credibility that their nuclear technology has outstripped everyone else’s when the evidence shows they’ve not managed to keep up on cheaper and simpler areas of defence.

The line you keep trying to spin that MAD isn’t going to be mutual because Russias got better nuclear weapons doesn’t convince, if I had to guess it’s the opposite and Russia knows it.

I respect the opinion, I'm not sure I want to test it though.

A 30 year old Nuclear Device will still do a lot of damage IMHO.

The main issue is Putin (until he's dead) - repeatedly saying the USSR failing was the worst thing that ever happened to the World

 

[BobKowalski]

Putin is laughing at all of us. We've voted in weak willed clowns to govern us and, coupled with everyone turning into wet fanny wipes over covid, we've created a perfect storm where Russia can do what the fuck they want without fear of consequence or retribution.

This is what happens when you fixate on wokism, inclusivity, diversity and social justice. Light your candles, unfurl your banners, march down the street, tearfully applaud Footballers.










Putin doesn't give a fuck.

Always find this obsession with the culture war, no matter the situation, somewhat mentally unhinged. Putin isn’t invading Ukraine because the US or whoever has a diversity policy. I mean, seriously, seek help.