Russian invasion of Ukraine

I am in the blast radius so disintergrated in milliseconds so can be blaise about it, feel sorry for them duckinfield folk that will have to live the rest or their lives as mutants
If a Tsar bomb landed in the middle of Manchester people in Dukinfield would be dead before they realised what had happened. It’d reach Liverpool and Yorkshire.

People would get 3rd degree burns in North Wales.
 
I posted something similar earlier. Although I don't think Zelensky is anywhere near that point yet. As things stand I think it's all or nothing for him.

He probably isn’t, but he will know Putin needs an off ramp otherwise he is toast and may bring everyone else down with him.

The US will also be aware of this. We need to start gaming what a peaceful settlement looks like and how we get there.
 
If a peace treaty is agreed I can see russia wanting the lands already occupied plus the southern regions they now control.

The fresh water pipe to crimea closed off 8 years ago is in russian hands at present and mariupol a stategic target they have wanted for a while.

Ukrain and should obviously say no to losing such an area and tell them no deal
 
He probably isn’t, but he will know Putin needs an off ramp otherwise he is toast and may bring everyone else down with him.

The US will also be aware of this. We need to start gaming what a peaceful settlement looks like and how we get there.

Like it or not, I think this does end with Putin gone but he will be gone with his money in the bank and safe from prosecution as that’s the sort of deal that will be cut.

Right now, so long as he is gone and we get a quick resolution to this I can live with it.
 
If a Tsar bomb landed in the middle of Manchester people in Dukinfield would be dead before they realised what had happened. It’d reach Liverpool and Yorkshire.

People would get 3rd degree burns in North Wales.

Isn’t it obsolete? But if they managed to get it as far as Manchester without being shot down it would be a fucking miracle.
 
My parents used to go on about the Cuban Missile Crisis, but this brinkmanship seems more dangerous. Perhaps some of our BM elder statesmen can give a comparison between the two?
If the US had put intermediate range nukes into Ukraine. And the Russians had an invasion plan drawn up. And the US had authorized use of tactical nuclear weapons against the invasion when it arrived. It would then be directly comparable.

Also if one general staff was actually desirous of starting a nuclear war and actively seeking to undermine the President who was doing everything in his power to prevent it. (There are actually tapes of Kennedy's interactions with the likes of Curtis LeMay and, just, wow.)

Much back then was far worse. But now what is worse is that both sides could wipe the world off the face of the world, so to speak, many times over. Back then the USSR would have been devastated but a lot of the US would not have reachable by Soviet strategic forces. Still would have had nuclear winter and all that and maybe everyone dies anyway but everyone would surely be dying now.

Don't think for a minute that's going to happen so the poster above's neighbour is probably safe.
 
Why did Putin send in Chechans? Ay particular reason they've been used to do Putin's dirty work?

Great to hear they're being slaughtered.

for that very reason?

Must be getting pushback from Russian mothers when he tells they their boys ain't coming home unless its in a body bag
 
If the US had put intermediate range nukes into Ukraine. And the Russians had an invasion plan drawn up. And the US had authorized use of tactical nuclear weapons against the invasion when it arrived. It would then be directly comparable.

Also if one general staff was actually desirous of starting a nuclear war and actively seeking to undermine the President who was doing everything in his power to prevent it. (There are actually tapes of Kennedy's interactions with the likes of Curtis LeMay and, just, wow.)

Much back then was far worse. But now what is worse is that both sides could wipe the world off the face of the world, so to speak, many times over. Back then the USSR would have been devastated but a lot of the US would not have reachable by Soviet strategic forces. Still would have had nuclear winter and all that and maybe everyone does anyway but everyone would surely be dying now.

Don't think for a minute that's going to happen so the poster above's neighbour is probably safe.
Thank you for the appraisal and also the chuckle.
 
Of course I know why. Are you justifying innocent people including children being murdered because you think they have a good reason ? No reason will ever justify loss of innocent lives.

The fact you are making out the UAE has never done wrong because of City’s ties to Sheikh Mansour is quite frankly laughable.
What on earth would you do instead?
 

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