Russian invasion of Ukraine

I'm not up for a debate about this (I'm not knowledgeable enough) but I think if this resolves peacefully Britain should re-join the EU and take a leading role in massively building up EU military conventional defenses.

I didnt have a vote but I tended towards Brexit. I've completely changed my mind after this.
 
bluethrunthru said:
why? what is stopping him? can someone explain what stops him being as generous as other leaders?

www.independent.co.uk

Boris Johnson’s Ukraine pledge falls short of welcoming all refugees

Refugees Welcome: Ukrainians currently need to have family connection to UK to be granted refuge
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not really the time right now, far bigger issues at stake methinks. Get them wrong and we won't have to concern ourselves over Ukrainian refugees, or, come to think of it, any refugees at all.


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BigJoe#1 said:
not really the time right now, far bigger issues at stake methinks. Get them wrong and we won't have to concern ourselves over Ukrainian refugees, or, come to think of it, any refugees at all.


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7 million people are at risk of being displaced that estimates say could rise to 18 million. Now absolutely is the time.
 
It is a bit more complicated than allowing everyone in, our county is on its arse but can help, however it needs to be proportionate. People forget about Syrians, Afghans and all the other major programs as they are not in the news.
 
Bill Walker said:
I'm not up for a debate about this (I'm not knowledgeable enough) but I think if this resolves peacefully Britain should re-join the EU and take a leading role in massively building up EU military conventional defenses.

I didnt have a vote but I tended towards Brexit. I've completely changed my mind after this.
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whats been learned here is that we'l never have another conventional war in europe again, the only way Russia for eg could penetrate Europe is by using nuclear missiles,the days of riding into town sat on a tank turret are over, as for building up EU military there realy is nothing to build up as NATO matches any enemy that coud ever engage us
 
Second RAF flight inbound this evening into Rzeszow Poland just now, nearest airfield to Ukraine, I would assume its taking military hardware, to put on transport into Ukraine.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
not really the time right now, far bigger issues at stake methinks. Get them wrong and we won't have to concern ourselves over Ukrainian refugees, or, come to think of it, any refugees at all.


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errr - if now is not the right time to facilitate Ukrainian refugee's when will be? My daughter went to Uni with a Polish lass - her family can take in a refugee and their dog no questions asked.....why at this moment of high alert do we require proof of salary or suggest they try to qualify as fruit pickers? Inhumane madness
 
Corky said:
It is a bit more complicated than allowing everyone in, our county is on its arse but can help, however it needs to be proportionate. People forget about Syrians, Afghans and all the other major programs as they are not in the news.
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can you clarify what you mean by our country is on its arse?
 
bluethrunthru said:
errr - if now is not the right time to facilitate Ukrainian refugee's when will be? My daughter went to Uni with a Polish lass - her family can take in a refugee and their dog no questions asked.....why at this moment of high alert do we require proof of salary or suggest they try to qualify as fruit pickers? Inhumane madness
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on about refugee's on one of the news chanels and saying most want to stay in countries that border Ukraine as they want to return as soon as its over,providing there is anything left to return to,they have there homes,jobs etc to return to, maybe financial help to the likes of Poland is a better move at this stage
 
marco said:
on about refugee's on one of the news chanels and saying most want to stay in countries that border Ukraine as they want to return as soon as its over,providing there is anything left to return to,they have there homes,jobs etc to return to, maybe financial help to the likes of Poland is a better move at this stage
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Fair enough I can see that being the case for a lot but why not say they are welcome here with their pets if there is no danger of it happening anyway - other than wanting to appear to be cunts for your cuntish supporters?

Its called grabbing the low hanging fruit
 
I'm sure China are watching this and maybe thinking invading Taiwan isnt going to be a walkover, but more a disaster.
Thank you Ukrainians.
 
Bill Walker said:
I'm sure China are watching this and maybe thinking invading Taiwan isnt going to be a walkover, but more a disaster.
Thank you Ukrainians.
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I’d agree to a point, but the huge difference is that Ukraine is right next to a bunch of countries who, NATO or not, want to do something. Taiwan isn’t. The Philippines, South Korea, Vietnam etc won’t do shit.
 
roman totale said:
I’d agree to a point, but the huge difference is that Ukraine is right next to a bunch of countries who, NATO or not, want to do something. Taiwan isn’t. The Philippines, South Korea, Vietnam etc won’t do shit.
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I believe Taiwan has some sort of pact with the US. They will come to its aid.
 
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