Russian invasion of Ukraine

[urban genie]

Ukrainian offocials amnounce Kherson has fallen, first major city to come under rusisan control.

 

[BlueT]

And unfortunately WW3 would have ensued and a catastrophe on a far larger scale even than the one we are seeing currently.

You are clearly right I just think NATO could of done more to deter Putin.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Apparently there are 2700 outlets of McDonald’s, Starbucks, KFC, Pizza Hut etc in Russia. I’m surprised that for someone who hates America so much, he allows these brands in the country. They are all still open currently I believe although that may change soon.

 

[bluethrunthru]

It's looking more and more likely that Moldova's Transnistria region and potentially Sweden and Finland are next on Putin's radar. None of these nations are in NATO (although they have expressed interest). That should begin to tell you more about Putin's tactics.

An invasion of Poland, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, all NATO members, would bring all members of NATO into the conflict, and we'd have War in Europe once more. Putin fears this, which is why he's targeting every nation of Europe within range that isn't a NATO member (Sweden was never part of the Soviet Union as they were technically 'neutral')

It's believed that Putin's motivation is to re-create a Russian Empire, a modern Tsardom, one that has influence over Europe so it will become less Transatlantic and allied with the United States, and instead be a Europe influenced by Russian doctrine. The more non-NATO nations he can swallow, the more he believes he will achieve this goal. Unfortunately for him, those nations are allied with NATO either directly, or as EU members, for his plan to succeed. The only European nation within reach that did not fit into either catagory was, you guessed it, Ukraine.

I think its quite clear that NATO and the EU need to court as many non-members as they can the sell being the protection membership would give them - Putin is approaching 70 and can't last forever

 

[RobMCFC]

Apparently there are 2700 outlets of McDonald’s, Starbucks, KFC, Pizza Hut etc in Russia. I’m surprised that for someone who hates America so much, he allows these brands in the country. They are all still open currently I believe although that may change soon.

I thought the US ordering companies like these (and Ford) to cease trading in Russia would have been the first wave of sanctions. Surely it’s only a matter of time.

 

[meltonblue]

I thought the US ordering companies like these (and Ford) to cease trading in Russia would have been the first wave of sanctions. Surely it’s only a matter of time.

A lot of companies are doing it themselves anyway. Saw Oracle pulled out today, IT companies like them doing it could have a huge impact.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I thought the US ordering companies like these (and Ford) to cease trading in Russia would have been the first wave of sanctions. Surely it’s only a matter of time.

Time will tell. Presumably they are franchises owned by Russians.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

Also means less of the arrogant bastards on holiday as well

What...no more XXL Russians squeezing into M speedos

 

[Blue Maverick]

Do not think UK provided any aid, just colonized and looted, unless you mean the token pittance given after looting to make oneself feel good.
Maybe should tell them will come and colonize you again that will set them right.

What the fuck you on about, plenty of aid is sent to these countries, whatbthe hell has something from hundreds of years ago got to do with it. Just look at Khan from Pakistan the day after the invasion cuddling upto Putin, maybe ask him for foreign aid and stop us sending cash to his country.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

East of Gotland island apparently - couldn’t work out how it got there but keep forgetting about that weird Kaliningrad place they have near there

Only place it could be - there's no border in the north.
Good pick up of Kaliningrad!

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Re. The huge explosion from the Twitter post on here, last night. I presume this is in reference to the same.
"Beirut port explosion footage being mistaken as Ukraine"
https://fullfact.org/online/beirut-...t explosion footage being mistaken as Ukraine

 

[hello]

Time will tell. Presumably they are franchises owned by Russians.

Will the franchise have a clause we reserve the right to revoke all rights to the franchise should your leader act like a twunt Al la force majeure in insurance contracts.

 

[domalino]

Time will tell. Presumably they are franchises owned by Russians.

Franchises are run by permission of the owner.

Besides all the food, packaging etc is bought off the main company so they’d just stop deliveries and they’d be out of McNuggets in 36 hours.

 

[domalino]

Not sure if this is a good message to send out -



Not least because I’d rather have people surrendering than fighting to the death.

The longer things drag on, the more hurt the Ukrainians go through, the more likely they are to commit war crimes of their own and give Putin good propaganda back home.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

I thought the US ordering companies like these (and Ford) to cease trading in Russia would have been the first wave of sanctions. Surely it’s only a matter of time.

Not sure I agree with these sanctions, I think we are getting to the point and then some that they are hurting the citizens who have nothing to do with this.

If we go to far this can easily be weaponised against the west.

 

[The perfect fumble]

What the fuck you on about, plenty of aid is sent to these countries, whatbthe hell has something from hundreds of years ago got to do with it. Just look at Khan from Pakistan the day after the invasion cuddling upto Putin, maybe ask him for foreign aid and stop us sending cash to his country.

Tue 13 Jul 2021

Outrage aimed at No 10 as MPs back £4bn cut to foreign aid budget​

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...if-they-have-numbers-to-block-foreign-aid-cut

"Melanie Ward, the UK executive president at the International Rescue Committee, said it would mean “the closure of lifesaving UK funded services in the world’s toughest places, at a time when humanitarian needs are particularly high and millions of people are facing starvation. It will have devastating concrete consequences: children will no longer be able to go to school, marginalised communities will go hungry and lives will be lost.”

Mike Adamson, the chief executive of the British Red Cross, said the cut would “exacerbate an already devastating reality for millions of people in need of urgent assistance”, while Rebecca Newsom, the UK head of politics at Greenpeace, said the cut risked becoming permanent and had undermined the chances of success at climate talks due to be held this year in Glasgow, as well as “threatening millions of livelihoods in poorer nations around the world”.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Any foreign aid to these countries from us should be immediately stopped, if you ain’t with us you’re against us, fuck em

we give foreign aid so countries can get richer and trade with us.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Not sure if this is a good message to send out -



Not least because I’d rather have people surrendering than fighting to the death.

The longer things drag on, the more hurt the Ukrainians go through, the more likely they are to commit war crimes of their own and give Putin good propaganda back home.

Yeah this is the wrong message and it will start to get people offside globally.

 

[Blue Maverick]

we give foreign aid so countries can get richer and trade with us.

Like India a country with a space program!

 

[Blue Maverick]

Tue 13 Jul 2021

Outrage aimed at No 10 as MPs back £4bn cut to foreign aid budget​

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...if-they-have-numbers-to-block-foreign-aid-cut

"Melanie Ward, the UK executive president at the International Rescue Committee, said it would mean “the closure of lifesaving UK funded services in the world’s toughest places, at a time when humanitarian needs are particularly high and millions of people are facing starvation. It will have devastating concrete consequences: children will no longer be able to go to school, marginalised communities will go hungry and lives will be lost.”

Mike Adamson, the chief executive of the British Red Cross, said the cut would “exacerbate an already devastating reality for millions of people in need of urgent assistance”, while Rebecca Newsom, the UK head of politics at Greenpeace, said the cut risked becoming permanent and had undermined the chances of success at climate talks due to be held this year in Glasgow, as well as “threatening millions of livelihoods in poorer nations around the world”.

Let those that voted against us get aid from Russia then.