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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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For a start that the era of 'goodies and baddies is over' and most major powers these days are just 'baddies'.
Literally every major power has been involved in morally corrupt bullshit over the last few decades.
Jesus Christ, you think that’s a revelatory take? Everyone over 15 years old knows this.
This perfectly sums up Brands new niche, thinking that “everyone’s a baddie” is an enlightened opinion. It’s actually the one viewpoint that’s more simplistic and uninformed than “goodies and baddies”.
You better have thick skin, that’s what my stance is and have been called all sorts!Feel genuinely sorry for the people of Ukraine. But as outsiders, the way I see it it’s literally NATO and the West causing trouble on one side vs an egotistical and expansionist Russia on the other side.
As always we are just pawns in geo politics and the west also has blood on their hands.
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Jesus Christ, you think that’s a revelatory take? Everyone over 15 years old knows this.
Based on some of the posts over the last few days here I don't see that.
'We need to double down on military spending'
'We need to send all the armies in to destroy Russia'
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It's easier for people to understand stuff if it's stripped down to basic good v evil starwars/lord of the rings morality. The downside of this is that it causes polarisation rather than understanding. The Walt quote from Brand sums up the complexity of this situation 'its possible to believe russian actions are illegitimate, while at the same time thinking US/NATO policy has contributed to this happening.' I'm happy to think this, while very much not being on Russias 'side', other people find this uncomfortable.Didn't think it would get as much hate, but yes - does appear people are not able to look at the broader picture and all the elements at play here.
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It's easier for people to understand stuff if it's stripped down to basic good v evil starwars/lord of the rings morality. The downside of this is that it causes polarisation rather than understanding. The Walt quote from Brand sums up the complexity of this situation 'its possible to believe russian actions are illegitimate, while at the same time thinking US/NATO policy has contributed to this happening. I'm happy to think this, while very much not being on Russias 'side', other people find this uncomfortable.
Yep exactly.
What Russia is doing is disgusting, but the west should also fuck off and stop trying to use Ukraine as some sort of militaristic chess piece.
Yeah of course the first invasion of a European country since 1945 has made people think about defence spending you goon.Based on some of the posts over the last few days here I don't see that.
'We need to double down on military spending'
'We need to send all the armies in to destroy Russia'
As for attacking Russia, no one is advocating that, so stop wumming.
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Yeah of course the first invasion of a European country since 1945 has made people think about defence spending you goon.
As for attacking Russia, no one is advocating that, so stop wumming.
You joking?
That's literally been a bulk of a lot of the posts.
It's easier for people to understand stuff if it's stripped down to basic good v evil starwars/lord of the rings morality. The downside of this is that it causes polarisation rather than understanding. The Walt quote from Brand sums up the complexity of this situation 'its possible to believe russian actions are illegitimate, while at the same time thinking US/NATO policy has contributed to this happening.' I'm happy to think this, while very much not being on Russias 'side', other people find this uncomfortable.
Why don’t you explain how NATO policy lead to this war? It’s a Russian propaganda line, but they don’t actually expand on it, so let’s see if you can actually come up with reasoning that doesn’t fall apart immediately.
You joking?
That's literally been a bulk of a lot of the posts.
I’ve been in this thread almost non stop, way too much in fact, so I know this is not true.