Russian invasion of Ukraine

Blue Mist said:
I see the remainers have yet again hijacked the thread.
This should be about Ukrainian people coming to this country. It should be about whether the govt. are deliberately making it difficult.
Please could we take the in out debate to the politics section.
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The government are deliberately making it difficult as they are all supporters of Brexit and more likely to be anti immigration.
 
domalino said:
Russia imports 15% of it's food.

So imagine supply goes down 15% and demand stays the same, what happens?
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I guess they take it from Ukraine or get it from one of the 40 odd countries that abstained in the recent vote. They are used to hardship like someone else alluded to. I know a lad who studied Russian and had to live there for a year. He turned up at this family house that were going to house and feed him for the time he was there and they basically booted the grandad out of the bedroom for a year and onto the sofa! For 95% of Russians, the likes of Zara closing is going to have no effect.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I guess they take it from Ukraine or get it from one of the 40 odd countries that abstained in the recent vote. They are used to hardship like someone else alluded to. I know a lad who studied Russian and had to live there for a year. He turned up at this family house that were going to house and feed him for the time he was there and they basically booted the grandad out of the bedroom for a year and onto the sofa! For 95% of Russians, the likes of Zara closing is going to have no effect.
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People were fighting each other in Ikea to buy things before they shut down.

Every economist in the world thinks these sanctions are going to result in an economic apocalypse - no one cares about your unqualified opinion that it's not going to have an effect on 95% of Russians.
 
hello said:
And our kids need a passport to go on school trips to France or Ireland etc. plenty to call the gov twunts for but that one is a bit exaggerated.
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Most European kids don’t have passports. To travel around Europe, ID cards are used. We won’t accept ID cards, so the school trips go elsewhere. FT did a piece on it. Will cost the hospitality trade millions.

We won’t accept Ukrainian refugees coming here without VISA’s, and we make getting a VISA difficult. We do this with all refugees. Why we have to argue the toss when it’s staring people in the face is beyond me. Telegraph are running a piece how ‘we are worried’ Ukrainians refugees coming to Ireland with no VISA’s, will sneak into UK and murder us all in our beds. Quite laughable really.
 
BobKowalski said:
Most European kids don’t have passports. To travel around Europe, ID cards are used. We won’t accept ID cards, so the school trips go elsewhere. FT did a piece on it. Will cost the hospitality trade millions.

We won’t accept Ukrainian refugees coming here without VISA’s, and we make getting a VISA difficult. We do this with all refugees. Why we have to argue the toss when it’s staring people in the face is beyond me. Telegraph are running a piece how ‘we are worried’ Ukrainians refugees coming to Ireland with no VISA’s, will sneak into UK and murder us all in our beds. Quite laughable really.
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Would be if it wasn’t so depressing. The stories of families all over Europe taking in refugees has been a true act of humanity at a time of utter atrocity. I imagine there would be an abundance here willing to do it too if they could get here and be allowed in by our government in the first place…
 
Colin Bells Holdall said:
Well why did you say we? It implied you are involved.
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We. As in the UK. It’s my country, so I say ‘we’ rather than ‘the UK’. We, ie the UK, insist that all European children on a school trip to the UK hold passports because they are deemed ‘a security risk‘ if they come here on ID cards.

We, as in the UK, are hostile to refugees and insist all forms are filled in, checked over, processed and then we’ll get back to you this side of never. It’s who we are.
 
hgblue said:
Can someone who understands these issues please explain something that's been bugging me please? Since the main drivers of inflation for ordinary people are fuel and food costs and Russia is self sufficient in oil and gas and most essential food stuffs, then why are Russian adults going to suffer serious hardship? I assume the low rouble makes luxury western goods more expensive but they can presumably cope quite comfortably without these for the foreseeable?
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Do you pay for everything with cash, or do you have any revolving (credit card) or permanent (mortgage, auto) debt? Imagine having no access to new revolving credit, interest rates on any debt you owe have doubled (and that’s just the beginning), and all the cash you have has, in one week, declined in value to a point where it can only buy half of what it used to, and it will be less tomorrow. And no way to stop this because the central bank can’t use foreign currency to support the local currency.

As someone else said, it’s “nuking the economy”.
 
BobKowalski said:
We. As in the UK. It’s my country, so I say ‘we’ rather than ‘the UK’. We, ie the UK, insist that all European children on a school trip to the UK hold passports because they are deemed ‘a security risk‘ if they come here on ID cards.

We, as in the UK, are hostile to refugees and insist all forms are filled in, checked over, processed and then we’ll get back to you this side of never. It’s who we are.
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You mean like an Australian controlled migration policy.
The bureaucracy needs to be sorted quickly but the refugees that are applying are in a safe country for now. Its not ideal for them. Hopefully Patel can get her arse into gear and get it moving promptly.
And same for anyone anywhere in the world fleeing a war zone or persecution.
 
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