Media Thread - 2021/22

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Neville's diatribe about Saudi and UAE is not only about his jealousy and insecurity about the scums decline, it will also give him a topic to spout about when he appears on question time this week.
Moreso after the select committee this week.
GNIAC!!!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Wonder if any journalists will ask Wreck-it Ralf, Klopp or Arteta about how they feel about the death penalty bring used in the USA, and whether they've checked what their owners' views of it are?
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The USA executed 17 people in 2021.

I don't recall that figure (or similar barbaric numbers for other countries on this planet which sanction state killing) being discussed in our mainstream news media, let alone by those giant intellects in possession of total global awareness who bring us our sports news.

And I don't say this to diminish the fate of those who have died and continue to die at the hands of the state, especially in our owner's country. I don't like aspects of our owner's country and I hope, somehow, we supporters can exercise some influence to help change those things for the better, for good.

Nor do I say so out of 'false equivalence' or 'whataboutery'. Like you and many others who visit here, I wouldn't hesitate to call out our owners, management, players and supporters if ever they evidence bad decision-making or behave like total wazzocks. They'd get both barrels on such occasions, as was the case when we failed to stand up to the proposed European Super League.

And by the way, not one of those 'giant intellects' of our sports media can teach me anything about the realities of the world in which we live; I've been well-educated in the prevailing capitalist economic and 'Realpolitik' models which have shaped over centuries the world I and everyone of us was born into, thank you very much.

All I (and if I may, we?) want is for even-handed, fair treatment of our club from the UK news media. No more lies, no more misleading articles and opinion pieces, no more buttressing of the 'History Clubs' and their agenda to secure their own financial ascendancy at the expense of the rest of the English football family with their attitude of 'devil take the hindmost..'

But as I said a few times on here, I won't be holding my breath until they do..
 
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Mr.Banks said:
Neville's diatribe about Saudi and UAE is not only about his jealousy and insecurity about the scums decline, it will also give him a topic to spout about when he appears on question time this week.
Moreso after the select committee this week.
GNIAC!!!
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Please tell me I've got this one right.
Gary Neville is a ****.

Wahey not bad for an old fart.
I'm getting the hang of this now
 
Mr.Banks said:
Neville's diatribe about Saudi and UAE is not only about his jealousy and insecurity about the scums decline, it will also give him a topic to spout about when he appears on question time this week.
Moreso after the select committee this week.
GNIAC!!!
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Oh forgot he was going on there!

So it be a question from the audience.

“Should states with questionable human rights own football clubs!?”

“Over to you ratface”

“Well if it’s my team I say yes they should!”
 
I think we have to face up to the fact that, just like Newcastle, we have not been able to shift the basic premise that we are state owned despite the legal position being clear. Mansour being who he is means that any idea that he's "only" the Deputy PM and hasn't benefitted from funding as a result of his position/family. As such, we'll always be vulnerable to the political doings in the UAE somehow being our fault.

So, there's a big question to the club that if they wish to change that, they need to set the position straight - either by explaining the structure in wordd of one sylable, or by sueing people who misrepresent them. Whilst theyve been happy to ignore the gobshites for now, more visible gobshites like Spitty, Ratty and Stoney may lead to a change of tactic.

Whilst the "state owned club" narrative proceeds, any argument about other clubs countries of orgins or sponsors activities are meaningless - you cant point towards the US death penalty being influenced by the Glazers can you.

Where there is a strong argument is that we are in some way in the same position as Chelsea. We should be clear - Chelsea are in trouble purely because the governments around the world have sanctioned RA and his assets - Chelsea being only one of a huge number of assets and companies that are now severely restricted or even closed down. This action has nothing to do with football or the football authorities taking any view on the suitability of Abramovich as an owner - they did that 20 years ago. Any idea that this is the start of a rethink on ownership is also just pure nonsense. Any suggestion that the football manager is somehow a figurehead for the football press to question this should be batted back more strongly - its not fair on Pep or Eddie Howe or Tuchel to give their view or the company view just because they happen to be contracted to appear at press conferences. A bit of ceremonial words in ears of editors may be required here.
 
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Bill Walker said:
I don't know why you guys in England keep listening to this stuff. TV and radio you know that it will be mainly anti Manchester City because they just can't stand us being champions.
If I were you I would just stop listening to things like Talkshit.

One of the fortunate things about living in Australia is you don't get to hear all that stuff.
I have no idea who this Jordan arsewipe is.
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She used to be a page 3 model
 
I've been thinking about the distinctions people(normally rival fans) are making these days, when it comes to oil specifically. I've even seen some peddling the narrative that the UAE Royals(or just our owner/his father) "stole the people's oil", which of course is not true, for numerous reasons.

Does anyone know if there is a big difference between state owned national resources and nationalised ones? It seems to me that they operate under different rules but ultimately the government is still in control.

Looking at a the list of nationalized oil countries, it doesn't appear to me that the public do have much say or reap any more benefit than those in countries with state owned oil, at least in the middle east.

Or do I have that wrong? Do they get a say on what happens with the oil, do the government hand out wads of cash to the people for every million gallons they sell? Rather than the few in power getting richer and more powerful. I think I already know the answer but there's a lot that have convinced themselves otherwise by the looks of it.

I think the fact that quite a few of the countries in that list are ranked much lower in Human Freedoms Index than the UAE or Qatar, says something too. Libya, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Saudi all in the bottom 11 for Human Freedoms, according to the latest review. All have nationalized their oil resources, if I understand correctly.
 
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I see the media have really gone to town on the bottle throwing at the rags last night (not) The boiled bollock on Talkshite this morning said something along the lines of "Simeone must have done or said something to get that reaction from the crowd" like it was all his fault,
Just imagine the press reaction if that had been at the Etihad.
 
Bozzie said:
It's brilliant isn't it. My missus grew up in Urmston, all her family are reds and, whilst she wasn't particularly interested one way or t'other she'd have definitely leant towards the red side in her youth. I took her to Maine Road, we were sitting fairly close to the front in the main stand and an opposition player took Ali Benarbia out, straight away she's on her feet shouting "Dirty Bastard" .... and I thought yeah, this one's a 'keeper'!
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Definitely a keeper.
 
Metalartin said:
I've been thinking about the distinctions people(normally rival fans) are making these days, when it comes to oil specifically. I've even seen some peddling the narrative that the UAE Royals(or just our owner/his father) "stole the people's oil", which of course is not true, for numerous reasons.
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This is an extraordinary take for anyone who is not a Communist. What UK natural resources are in the hands of 'the people'? Very few, if any. When coal was nationalised, for example, the private owners were handsomely compensated. In other words 'the people' had to buy 'their' coal. Blimey, in the UK you can't even take fish out of a river, because the fish, although a natural product, are someone's property. Try telling Colonel Fanshaw-Smyth that his trout and salmon are 'the people's'. Has he stolen them?
 
J.G.Blue. said:
I see the media have really gone to town on the bottle throwing at the rags last night (not) The boiled bollock on Talkshite this morning said something along the lines of "Simeone must have done or said something to get that reaction from the crowd" like it was all his fault,
Just imagine the press reaction if that had been at the Etihad.
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Should be easy enough for United, to identify culprits and issue bans. In fairness this is unusual don't remember Pep or klop being treated like this.
 
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