Fred_Quimby
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Why 16 hours??
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bluethrunthru
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Employer pays less NI - Employee can claim in-work benefits so employer gets the tax payer to top up his / her employees pay - in the event of a busy period you can turn extra staff on like a tap but if things are quiet you aren't committed to paying people to do work that may not be there - numerous reasons really
Fred_Quimby
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Petroleum giants are making a killing. Government blaming it on Ukrainian crisis. This is bollox. Crude is at the same price as it was in 2014. The price of fuel at the forecourt is NOT as it was in 2014. Very little has changed since 2014, perhaps a slight increase in wages but everything else is practically the same. So the only other difference is the profit the barstewards are making. We should be taking money off these people and reducing the tax.
bluethrunthru
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as in Labours suggestion of a windfall tax? You see problem there is because Starmer has raised it Johnson will stubbornly refuse to consider it however if things get that bad he will have to do it and then claim Starmer is being Captain Hindsight when he tells Johnson it was first suggested by Starmer..................oh and Hoyle will do fuck all to make him answer any questions
See my post from a few days ago on this, the more signatures the better.
This petition could do with a few more names on it for cutting VAT on fuel and reducing fuel duty.
Archived Petition: Reduce fuel duty and VAT by 40% for a period of 2 years
The Government should reduce the cost of fuel through a reduction of 40% in fuel duty and VAT for 2 years. This can effectively offset the rise in fuel prices since 2020.petition.parliament.uk
The tax on a litre of petrol is 86p in the UK according to fullfact.org
For unleaded petrol at £1.65 per litre, according to estimates from car services company the RAC, 51p of that is the wholesale cost of petrol paid by retailers and 11p is the cost of ethanol that is mixed with the petrol in E10 fuel, the standard petrol grade in Great Britain.
Two pence is delivery and oil company costs and the retailer margin is 16p.
Finally there are taxes. Fuel duty adds nearly 58p and VAT at 20% adds on another 28p.
fullfact.org
For unleaded petrol at £1.65 per litre, according to estimates from car services company the RAC, 51p of that is the wholesale cost of petrol paid by retailers and 11p is the cost of ethanol that is mixed with the petrol in E10 fuel, the standard petrol grade in Great Britain.
Two pence is delivery and oil company costs and the retailer margin is 16p.
Finally there are taxes. Fuel duty adds nearly 58p and VAT at 20% adds on another 28p.
Why is petrol more expensive now than it was 15 years ago? – Full Fact
International oil prices recently reached similar levels to 2008, but pump prices haven’t dropped to what they were back then.
fullfact.org
bluethrunthru
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The tax on a litre of petrol is 86p in the UK according to fullfact.org
For unleaded petrol at £1.65 per litre, according to estimates from car services company the RAC, 51p of that is the wholesale cost of petrol paid by retailers and 11p is the cost of ethanol that is mixed with the petrol in E10 fuel, the standard petrol grade in Great Britain.
Two pence is delivery and oil company costs and the retailer margin is 16p.
Finally there are taxes. Fuel duty adds nearly 58p and VAT at 20% adds on another 28p.
Why is petrol more expensive now than it was 15 years ago? – Full Fact
International oil prices recently reached similar levels to 2008, but pump prices haven’t dropped to what they were back then.
so don't go thinking running an EV is going to remain cheap to charge folks - that has to come from somewhere as FFE vehicles get used less and less
MillionMilesAway
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Some electricity companies are telling customers that the govt are inflicting rises on them, apparently without a cap and without much engagement.
bluethrunthru
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Time after time with this lot in the many crises they have managed to propagate by their actions the lie and say they are communicating with the various parties to try and find answers only for said parties to respond with " nobody from the Govt has been in touch" - rising fuel and food prices - the Brexit debacle - their piss poor efforts in Ukraine will all conspire against them - we are 6 weeks away from local govt elections in that time the BOE base rate will be 1% or more and inflation will be topping 6% - Johnson and his cronies are going to struggle explaining that one away
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I imagine we'll be treated to the poundshop Churchill act and a hooray for the vaccine roll out.
They do seem strangely calm about the boe rate and inflation - most Tory govts do hone in on those. Is it that the inflation erodes debt and increases the vat take enough to bail the govt out of a hole or something? I'm assuming that if prices double then the 20%vat does too, but I'm no economist.
bluethrunthru
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It does destroy some of the fundamentals of their beloved Thatcherism - they created home owners via the right to buy scheme because they considered home owners vote Conservative. Housing is already stupidly expensive and homes that are owner occupied are getting fewer as the private landlord numbers grow but they are saved by middle class home owners on fixed rate mortgages - last I saw was 75% of them - and loads of those are going to end in the next 18 months. The article I was reading from October said £840 a year had been added to the repayments on a £150k mortgage ( not that £150k gets you a lot these days )
Then there was Essex man who morphed into Mondeo man who's tank of petrol just went up to £100
So you can commute into London from Essex by train but the fares just had their biggest hike in 9 years.
And Sunak is saying at their conference he wants to "continue" cutting taxes............he hasn't cut one since becoming Chancellor that would affect the normal voter but he is unleashing the highest tax burden on the British people - more than any previous Chancellor.
The cast themselves in the role of the party of fiscal responsibility - people are about to get a lesson in how much of that is bollocks.
The Future’s Blue!
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Regardless of the insidious way that this is being reported, does any body find it weird that those shelves are fully stocked?
The Future’s Blue!
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This government are loving it. Higher rates, higher income through tax.
A simple equation, and you aren’t in it.
bluethrunthru
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It is in an affluent area of Oxfordshire remember
The Sunday times tomorrows front page is dominated by articles about the conservatives, and none of them are good
www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk
Sunday Times Front Page 20th of March 2022 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!
The paper is also leading on Mr Johnson likening Ukraine's battle to Brexit at his party's spring conference in Blackpool, which was watched by the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, Vadym Prystaiko.
www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk
Bodicoteblue
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They will just reach for the old tried and trusted favourites.
Just last week at PMQs, we saw the overdue reappearance of the old ‘it’s the fault of the last labour government‘ (12years and counting). An oldie but still a goody if you’ve got a gullible enough audience.
Rising fuel and food costs can soon be passed off as a result of the pandemic and now the Ukraine invasion and war.
Rising interest rates can be passed off as the result of any of the above.
Some or all of it of course can always simply be attributed to bloody foreigners, that’s always a vote winner no matter what.
Remember, we are talking about swathes of extremely politically illiterate voters.
Brexit has now been swept almost entirely from the public consciousness so they will not have to even think about that as its worst excesses are nowhere to be seen unless you are a farmer, a fisherman, an international trucker, an importer/exporter or you work for P&O.
For the moment anyway.
He’ll come away from it pretty much unscathed sadly, as always, because we’re largely a nation of subservient idiots.The Sunday times tomorrows front page is dominated by articles about the conservatives, and none of them are good
Sunday Times Front Page 20th of March 2022 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!
The paper is also leading on Mr Johnson likening Ukraine's battle to Brexit at his party's spring conference in Blackpool, which was watched by the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, Vadym Prystaiko.
bluethrunthru
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Dowden - Minister for Paperclips and Plastic Rulers I think - another weird fantasist
bluethrunthru
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Of course she has - no point in buying a Government completely if you don't use it
www.businessinsider.com
Daughter of banker accused of having connections to Russian security service meets string of top Tories via roles at Conservative groups
Ilma Bogdan met Stanley Johnson, Sajid Javid and Malcolm Rifkind thanks to her string of roles at Tory party groups.
www.businessinsider.com