City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Raking over old coals, nothing to see.
Our detractors and der shithouse must be getting desperate.
If Dan Roan thinks the Premer League can ignore the statute of limitations in legal cases he's sadly mistaken. Even if its just PL rules the same matters were investigated by CAS with evidence from all relevant parties and there was not and is not any evidence. In any event i thought the CAS ruling was that there was no evidence offered by UEFA to prove their allegations in relation to the matters prior to 2016 and even if there was (there wasnt) it was time barred. So what the fuck are they on about.
This alleged payments to youngsters was investigated by the FA wasn't it and allegations about Mancinis contract? Again weren't the findings that there was no evidence to support the allegations? It's a bit tiresome dealing with these irrelevant wankers making the same noises every six months.
 
I’m sure it’s wholly coincidental this has blown up during the most important 2 weeks of City’s season, as Liverpool (one of the two teams the PL NEEDS to win the League to please their Asian customers) seek their second PL in 3 years (same as City!) and are fighting for the same 3 trophies City are still contesting.

Also, coincidentally, we are playing them twice in games that may determine the two remaining Domestic trophies.

Go figure!

And much of this timing down to Der Spiegel, a German publication that publishes illegally obtained documents.

And to think, they have a famous German coach and we have a coach many Germans believe failed the largest club in Germany, Bayern Munich!
 
Kinkys Left Foot said:
and allegations about Mancinis contract? Again weren't the findings that there was no evidence to support the allegations?
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They apparently found that Mancini did actually do some work in the role he was paid for. But if Der Spiegel don't know that, it didn't happen.
 
I'd prefer City, spend a bit of money to fight Bayern and Der Spiegel at their own game.

Bayern aren't squeaky clean and it does seem odd how long they've been banging on about City's UAE links, while they refuse to end their relationship with Qatar Airways(even though their fans have complained about that... so much for the 50+1 myths). I mean, Barca at least had the sense to see the hypocrisy in such an arrangement(eventually) while going after City in the press and behind the scenes.

Most didn't really notice that City's commercial revenue is 3rd not 1st. That is partly because United's revenue dropped, Tifo said they voluntered to slash the Cheverolet money if I remember right, there are also sometimes clauses with some sponsors about CL targets. It's Bayern who have the highest commercial revenue in world football, they have shareholder links to some of their biggest commercial partners also(compare the Audi deal to our Nissan deal for example): "How is Bayern's commercial revenue bigger than Real's in a pandemic, something has to be dodgy, it's obvious innit"

Der Spiegel already have a tarnished reputation, an article laying out how deep the lies and corruption goes within their own organisation, with no aim other than reputational damage, would be their just deserts. They aren't about the truth, they are about disruption and destruction, it's almost as if someone has paid them to do just that.

I love how it's glossed over that they have published fabricated stories numerous times, with numerous employees too. I think the below quote shows how relevant it is in the context of Der Spiegel's so called research. Would anyone in our press be listening to them, if it wasn't City they were attacking?

Fabrication in research: The term, in this context, means the deliberate misrepresentation of research results by inventing facts, i.e., making up data.


In some jurisdictions, i.e., legal systems, the deliberate misrepresentation of research data is against the law.
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The dream scenario would be if someone could establish who is paying them, that would kill two birds with one stone but obtaining that information is unlikely.
 
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The bad news is that those emails do certainly suggest that City were cooking the books and "attributing" Mansour funds to other Abu-Dhabi-related sponsorship deals. To be honest, I don't see how anyone can think we didn't do that. Your mileage just varies on how okay you are with that sort of thing going on behind the scenes.

The good news is that FFP was a bad idea anyway, and I don't think any of the above is remotely provable. Any good lawyer could surely argue that the wording instead meant "attribute" in the sense that we have to make it clear that we're attributing the funds to the right places so it doesn't look dodgy. It was a long time ago and based on an implication. A heavy implication, but an implication nonetheless. I'm fairly sure little will become of it overall.
 
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The Pandorica Opened said:
The bad news is that those emails do certainly suggest that City were cooking the books and "attributing" Mansour funds to inflated sponsorship deals. To be honest, I don't see how anyone can think we didn't do that. Your mileage just varies on how okay you are with that sort of thing going on behind the scenes.
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What utter bullshit. It's like the CAS case never happened. The core allegation from UEFA, based on highly selective emails published by Der Spiegel, was that Sheikh Mansour had provided significant parts of the sponsorship revenue himself, via ADUG.

City were able to show that wasn't the case, with the funds alleged to have come from ADUG actually coming from central marketing funds provided by the UAE government. I'd known about that for years so it wasn't a surprise to me, hence why I was completely confident that we'd win at CAS. We haven't been "cooking the books" and when you understand the situation, the email from Graham Wallace reads completely differently. Furthermore, the ADUG books were independently examined and there was no evidence of such payments.

Having thought it through, I suspect the PL is about to clear us, as CAS did, and this is another crude attempt by our enemies to somehow muddy the waters.
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
The bad news is that those emails do certainly suggest that City were cooking the books and "attributing" Mansour funds to inflated sponsorship deals. To be honest, I don't see how anyone can think we didn't do that. Your mileage just varies on how okay you are with that sort of thing going on behind the scenes.

The good news is that FFP was a bad idea anyway, and I don't think any of the above is remotely provable. Any good lawyer could surely argue that the wording instead meant "attribute" in the sense that we have to make it clear that we're attributing the funds to the right places so it doesn't look dodgy. It was a long time ago and based on an implication. A heavy implication, but an implication nonetheless. I'm fairly sure little will become of it overall.
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The Pandorica Opened said:
The bad news is that those emails do certainly suggest that City were cooking the books and "attributing" Mansour funds to inflated sponsorship deals. To be honest, I don't see how anyone can think we didn't do that. Your mileage just varies on how okay you are with that sort of thing going on behind the scenes.

The good news is that FFP was a bad idea anyway, and I don't think any of the above is remotely provable. Any good lawyer could surely argue that the wording instead meant "attribute" in the sense that we have to make it clear that we're attributing the funds to the right places so it doesn't look dodgy. It was a long time ago and based on an implication. A heavy implication, but an implication nonetheless. I'm fairly sure little will become of it overall.
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Do a bit of research, before you post rubbish.
It will save you from alot of flax.
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
The bad news is that those emails do certainly suggest that City were cooking the books and "attributing" Mansour funds to inflated sponsorship deals. To be honest, I don't see how anyone can think we didn't do that. Your mileage just varies on how okay you are with that sort of thing going on behind the scenes.

The good news is that FFP was a bad idea anyway, and I don't think any of the above is remotely provable. Any good lawyer could surely argue that the wording instead meant "attribute" in the sense that we have to make it clear that we're attributing the funds to the right places so it doesn't look dodgy. It was a long time ago and based on an implication. A heavy implication, but an implication nonetheless. I'm fairly sure little will become of it overall.
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Sniff fucking sniff.

Edit: What are you waffling on about inflated deals for also?.. This has nothing to do with inflation! It would help if you had some clue what you were on about.
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
The bad news is that those emails do certainly suggest that City were cooking the books and "attributing" Mansour funds to inflated sponsorship deals. To be honest, I don't see how anyone can think we didn't do that. Your mileage just varies on how okay you are with that sort of thing going on behind the scenes.

The good news is that FFP was a bad idea anyway, and I don't think any of the above is remotely provable. Any good lawyer could surely argue that the wording instead meant "attribute" in the sense that we have to make it clear that we're attributing the funds to the right places so it doesn't look dodgy. It was a long time ago and based on an implication. A heavy implication, but an implication nonetheless. I'm fairly sure little will become of it overall.
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Rag or dipper? Which bitter is it then? Either way tick tock……….
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
What utter bullshit. It's like the CAS case never happened. The core allegation from UEFA, based on highly selective emails published by Der Spiegel, was that Sheikh Mansour had provided significant parts of the sponsorship revenue himself, via ADUG.

City were able to show that wasn't the case, with the funds alleged to have come from ADUG actually coming from central marketing funds provided by the UAE government. I'd known about that for years so it wasn't a surprise to me, hence why I was completely confident that we'd win at CAS. We haven't been "cooking the books" and when you understand the situation, the email from Graham Wallace reads completely differently. Furthermore, the ADUG books were independently examined and there was no evidence of such payments.

Having thought it through, I suspect the PL is about to clear us, as CAS did, and this is another crude attempt by our enemies to somehow muddy the waters.
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If the PL investigation is about to be shut closed, it is the last chance to smear us as nothing has been proved we’ve cheated over the past decade. Once the PL clears us, it’s over. It does certainly feel like a desperate attempt to further damage our reputation.
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
The bad news is that those emails do certainly suggest that City were cooking the books and "attributing" Mansour funds to inflated sponsorship deals. To be honest, I don't see how anyone can think we didn't do that. Your mileage just varies on how okay you are with that sort of thing going on behind the scenes.

The good news is that FFP was a bad idea anyway, and I don't think any of the above is remotely provable. Any good lawyer could surely argue that the wording instead meant "attribute" in the sense that we have to make it clear that we're attributing the funds to the right places so it doesn't look dodgy. It was a long time ago and based on an implication. A heavy implication, but an implication nonetheless. I'm fairly sure little will become of it overall.
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If you’re a rag or dipper and lurking on here then we’re well in truly in your head! If you’re a blue your fuckin pathetic!
 
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