Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

Manchester33 said:
Talking about the atmosphere feels like Groundhog Day for me.

It’s not acoustics.
It’s not position of singers.
It’s not the type of song.
It’s not the style of play.
It’s not the KO time.
It’s not the opposition.
It’s not nerves.
It’s not overconfidence.

These are all variables that affect every stadium whether it’s La Bombanera or Craven Cottage.

The difference between our atmosphere being brilliant and awful is down to the monetisation of us fans by the club.

We have had a decade of price rises.
Our match day tickets are extortionate.
We have vast, vast amounts of rarely occupied corporate seats. We have LED advertising boards. Adverts blaring at 150 decibels. The club don’t give a shit about the atmosphere as long as the money keeps flooding in and it shows. Fuck getting a bunch of 17/18/19 year old lads in when you can charge a family £200 + whatever they spend in the club shop and on food/drink.

The issue we have is that the club have rid our stands of the type of person who’s likely to create an atmosphere and replaced them with families/tourists/corporates. In a 55k stadium, we have around 5k fan(atic)s who will sing. The rest are purely spectators.

It’s so short sighted and as you said, it will cost us fans (and subsequently money) in the long run.

Simply put, we can organise singing sections and all sorts of incentives, but there will always be a limit on what we achieve when we’re treated as cash cows rather than supporters.
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Spot on in many ways, but you only have to hear the stadium reaction any time “City, City, the best team in the land and all the world” goes up… all areas of the stadium join in with it because the most popular songs are City songs.

Compare that to “Empty seats at home”, “Gerrard slipped Suarez Cried” etc. (how have they become our core songs?) or songs about players when they’re not playing or don’t play for us anymore, where hardly anybody across the stadium outside a small section of SSL1 and a bit of 110-111 joins in.

Choice of songs is massive. Our songs that get sung regularly are, at times, utterly bizarre choices for that moment, or are the same shit songs that get sung four times a half every game that aren’t even popular and nobody joins in with.

Sing City songs and more people across the stadium will join in. I say it all the time, but it doesn’t seem to be reaching the people in needs to reach.

Blue Moon
City City, The Best Team In The Land And All The World
City, We’re From Manchester (Go West)
We Love You City
We’re The Pride Of Manchester
Oh Man City, The Only Football Team To Come From Manchester
Na na na na na na na na City
City ’Til I Die
We All Follow Man City, Over Land And Sea
Oh When The Blues Go Marching In
We are City from Maine Road
… among many others we no longer sing

We would have a better atmosphere if these were sung regularly like they should be… these should be our core songs, I have no bloody idea what they aren’t and why the shite we sing as our core songs instead have become our core songs.

I’m probably boring people to death banging on about this all the time but I will until it changes. SING THE CITY SONGS!

Your spot on about prices though. I’ve got about two dozen mates who don’t have a season ticket anymore because they’re too expensive. My ticket is in a similar place at the Etihad to an uncle who has one at Old Trafford. Ten years ago his ticket was twice the price of mine, his price has stayed the same for ten years and mine is now more expensive than his - and they fucking moan about the Glazers!
 
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Manchester33 said:
Your ticket is £18 per game, but you can afford the £300+ Outlay to get one. Our average fan clearly can’t.

A match day ticket in SSL3 against Newcastle is:

Under 18 - £30
18-21 - £40
Adult - £50

That is outrageous and it’s no wonder there are empty seats (or seats filled with tourists and day trippers). Remember you have to buy a membership first too.

If city bit the bullet and halved those prices for a season, the atmosphere would be far better. But they won’t, because that extra million pounds can pay for a few huge cheesy displays (like the one we’ll get on Tuesday) that the club do, to try to improve the atmosphere!!

Not every singer who buys a cheap ticket is going to sing, but the % will be higher (hence why SSL3 sings more than CBL2).
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Absolutely agree with you. The match day tickets are a joke.

The point I was making was that the vast majority near me in SS3 are season tickets holders, have been going for years, and have not been priced out. They still choose not to support the team, unless we are 3 up. I really don’t know why.

Moving forward, One big end at the North Stand with tickets £20 each would do so much for the atmosphere.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
don’t think I agree with at. Just seems like a list of excuses. You do not see the level of early leavers we have at other grounds. A lot of those fans at Liverpool for example don’t live anywhere near their ground either - you don’t see as many leaving there.

a lot of the people you describe must have lots of money to waste to justify paying for tickets and missing so much football. Seems like lots of them aren’t that bothered about the match and go out of habit.

I keep hearing how we’ve always had early leavers. When we were going for the league under Mancini or trying to get a champions league spot it was no where near as bad.
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While I agree that we have too many early leavers, I think people are missing the point regarding Liverpool and United fans who live miles away. Many of those fans will be stopping over the night so they’re actually less likely to leave early than a local fan. And for those who aren’t staying over, many of them will be on coaches from here, there, and everywhere (United in particular have shit loads of coaches coming from one end of the country or another), and those coaches ain’t going anywhere until every fucker is on them so there’s no point in those fans bailing out early.
 
blue44 said:
hang on

city and soriano are losing a trick here

its sunny here in manc since 9am

can't we get pre holiday folk in and charge em to get a pre holiday tan

every little helps !
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I thought people had realised by now them sort of things make you look older and give you skin cancer. Very 80s.
 
Mike N said:
Absolutely agree with you. The match day tickets are a joke.

The point I was making was that the vast majority near me in SS3 are season tickets holders, have been going for years, and have not been priced out. They still choose not to support the team, unless we are 3 up. I really don’t know why.

Moving forward, One big end at the North Stand with tickets £20 each would do so much for the atmosphere.
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I looked at the block with the most tickets for sale for Brighton, it was 318 with 108 at 5pm, and 5.01pm it was 38. People get the cheaper tickets and a lot won't turn up.
 
There is a light said:
Take those words to the letter if you want mate, but you know what I’m getting at. They don’t want to listen to reasons why it’s just shit behaviour for a fan base. Absolutely dreadful the scenes like that yesterday. Probably 30,000 had left with over 5 minutes playing time remaining.
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Like someone said earlier, to me it's just a lack of passion for the club. Their time at home or at the pub is more important than cheering the team off. There seems a definite lack of emotional connection with this team, not sure why because they're a wonderful group of professionals. The owners must be shaking their heads yesterday wondering what more they could do to please the fans. I know Newcastle and Everton fans would be loving these successful times.
 
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