The Scottish Politics thread

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Postman Pep said:
Irvine is not happy....

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Using a popular take he came up with, in a campaign, I can see how he could be tempted to comment.

Can't be real though, that from the Tories, surely. They can't be possibly That stupid.
 
Choose Barnard Castle, choose cronyism, choose Russian influence, choose lying to the queen, choose lock down parties, choose media control, choose losing your civil liberties, choose poverty creation for the poor, choose wealth creation for the elite, choose truths are lies and lies are truths, choose promises on the sides of buses, choose sale of the NHS, choose the most expensive energy in Europe, choose a hard border in the Irish channel, Choose Johnson, Reese Mogg, Dorris, Shapps and all the other intellectual giants,
Choose the same future for Scotland....

UK Conservative Party

a bunch of hypocritical, dishonest, cuntish bawbags.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Choose Barnard Castle, choose cronyism, choose Russian influence, choose lying to the queen, choose lock down parties, choose media control, choose losing your civil liberties, choose poverty creation for the poor, choose wealth creation for the elite, choose truths are lies and lies are truths, choose promises on the sides of buses, choose sale of the NHS, choose the most expensive energy in Europe, choose a hard border in the Irish channel, Choose Johnson, Reese Mogg, Dorris, Shapps and all the other intellectual giants,
Choose the same future for Scotland....

UK Conservative Party

a bunch of hypocritical, dishonest, cuntish bawbags.
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You’re not selling them to me.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I was just thinking while I was posting that of all the additional things I could have included but didn't.
They have damaged the country horribly.
Still only 3/4 % behind Labour in the polls too. Can you imagine people still wanting to vote them in for another term?
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Yes. I can.
 
Record A&E waiting times with an average of over 12 hours.

Won’t ever be her or her policies and party fault though.

Domestically hers and the SNP’s failures are mounting up.
 
blueinsa said:
Record A&E waiting times with an average of over 12 hours.

Won’t ever be her or her policies and party fault though.

Domestically hers and the SNP’s failures are mounting up.
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What does that mean, record waiting times. How many does it take, for a record?

The current reported figures state 4 hour waiting time, with over 80% seen and discharged within that time. lists percentages of those that go over, often to do with severity of the case, according to the NHS figures.

No interest in defenfing her or her party btw, just getting an understanding of the statement that on the face of it reads quite shocking (shocked me, hence I looked), but then seems either partially selective or untrue.

4 hours is still pretty terrible btw, and deserves the same criticism.
 
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blueinsa said:
Record A&E waiting times with an average of over 12 hours.

Won’t ever be her or her policies and party fault though.

Domestically hers and the SNP’s failures are mounting up.
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Nothing to do with the current absence rate caused by Covid because after all, Johnson says we have beaten it and its over.
 
blueinsa said:
Record A&E waiting times with an average of over 12 hours.

Won’t ever be her or her policies and party fault though.

Domestically hers and the SNP’s failures are mounting up.
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Record waiting times? any factual evidence of this? I'm not Saying Your wrong, but if like to see what your referencing.

At the end of the day, Sturgeon spends an ever decreasing amount of money in healthcare which is far outperforming its Southern counterparts.

Also factor in far greater logistical demands in running the service over a far greater area and population spread. Getting ambulances to the islands and highlands for example, is not easy. Yet Scottish government still outperform the South when it shouldn't be, factoring in the far greater challenges it faces. There is also such a shortage of nurses in England that you are finding band 6 nurses with less than a years experience simply due to demand. Up here, your talking 5/6 years minimum.

The service is and will (along with many others) inevitably begin to decline as a result of funding cuts from Westminster. No matter how much Scot Gov try to limit the effects of austerity and funding cuts, all services need money.

I find it ironic when Tories have a go at Sturgeon about the performance levels of services, yet conveniently overlook funding cuts and inferior services down South. The perfect example of choosing the facts that suit your agenda.
 
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Vicious111 said:
Record waiting times? any factual evidence of this? I'm not Saying Your wrong, but if like to see what your referencing.

At the end of the day, Sturgeon spends an ever decreasing amount of money in healthcare which is far outperforming its Southern counterparts.

Also factor in far greater logistical demands in running the service over a far greater area and population spread. Getting ambulances to the islands and highlands for example, is not easy. Yet Scottish government still outperform the South when it shouldn't be, factoring in the far greater challenges it faces. There is also such a shortage of nurses in England that you are finding band 6 nurses with less than anyways experience simply due to demand. Up here, your talking 5/6 years minimum.

The service is and will (along with many others) inevitably begin to decline as a result of funding cuts from Westminster. No matter how much Scot God try to limit the effects of austerity and funding cuts, these services need money.

I find it ironic when Tories have a go at Sturgeon about the performance levels of services, yet conveniently overlook funding cuts and inferior services down South. The perfect example of choosing the facts that suit your agenda.
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Loads of evidence, try using Google and for the record, it’s not just Tories having a go at her and her parties record on the NHS, it’s Labour and the Lib Dems as well.

Fair play on some of the excuses for her though, they are crackers;-)
 
blueinsa said:
Loads of evidence, try using Google and for the record, it’s not just Tories having a go at her and her parties record on the NHS, it’s Labour and the Lib Dems as well.

Fair play on some of the excuses for her though, they are crackers;-)
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Excuses? So Scotland doesn't have a third of the UK landmass and 10% of the population? Not to mention 96 inhabited islands that need Drs, Nurses and all sorts of other social services. As for having a go at her, that's their job as she is the leader of the ruling Scottish Government - that's exactly what they are supposed to do. Doesn't mean they would do it better, as Westminster so clearly demonstrates, or that they are correct - which i'm not saying they are not.

But surely you don't need me to explain the challenges that brings...if so, will I draw you a wee map :D ?
 
Vicious111 said:
Excuses? So Scotland doesn't have a third of the UK landmass and 10% of the population? Not to mention 96 inhabited islands that need Drs, Nurses and all sorts of other social services. As for having a go at her, that's their job as she is the leader of the ruling Scottish Government - that's exactly what they are supposed to do. Doesn't mean they would do it better, as Westminster so clearly demonstrates, or that they are correct - which i'm not saying they are not.

But surely you don't need me to explain the challenges that brings...if so, will I draw you a wee map :D ?
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Although wee Tommy McHanks on his island is a convincing story not sure how it relates to A&E waiting times as they have surely made it to the hospital.
 
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