Real Madrid (A) Post Match Thread

AdamMarrett said:
I won't get into the corruption of the referee, not interested in it. But he fundamentally dictated the game. If he books Casemiro for the foul on Kev in the 6th/7th minute as he's supposed to it's a completely different game. Casemiro can't later on rugby tackle Phil, and he can't influence the game as he did. It's just abysmal by the ref that he didn't do his job properly, but then booked Laporte and Modric for basically nothing a few seconds/minutes later. You do wonder.

I'll add I'm not blaming the referee for our implosion in injury time, that had nothing to do with the referee or Pep, that was on the players and players alone, and down to Real not giving it up when 95% of sides would've by then.
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Good post, but an important additional point to add about the referee was him deciding to end the game 2 minutes 50 in to added time , when the board had shown 3 minutes (a ridiculous decision in its own right given the amount of time wasting from Real) and just as Ederson was about to launch the ball in to their box. To deny that attacking opportunity is appalling refereeing at best and corruption at worst.

For anyone who downplays the significance of him ending the game early, ''it was only 10 seconds'' etc. Well, if the QPR game ended at 93.10 there's no Aguero moment...
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Getting sick and tired of the increasing levels of cheating that’s going on in the game today.

The holding of the face and head when there is no contact, or minimal at best. The flopping, the rolling, the grasping at broken legs that suddenly heal when the ref asks him if he wants the Physio and to leave the field.

And, I’m not just talking about other teams’ players!

Lastly, I’m the furthest thing from a Dyche fan, but I do like how he calls out the bullshit that creeping into the game. He does it with a sense of humor, but it’s pointed nonetheless!

It’d be sour grapes to complain about Casemiro and his THREE non-existent yellow cards, especially when juxtaposed against Sterling’s brilliant tackle…and subsequent foul and yellow card!

There should have been a “pull back” yellow card in the first minute. Ref bottled it and made the rod for his own back (IF it had not been inserted pre-game by UEFA?!), just as Tierney did at Leeds on the weekend!

Can’t complain about any of the decisions around the goals, but he certainly did his damnedest to influence the game throughout, especially by ignoring the Casemiro yellows AND the prevalence of his other fouls.

And, DEBE, while we are talking about Rugby, let’s mic up the officials, make the audio available (unedited!) post-game, and let’s add a layer of transparency to an increasingly gambling funded sport at a time when even objective viewing raises suspicions.
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Make the VAR ref broadcast what they're seeing like they do in rugby union and cricket. Would settle a lot of things.
 
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Bellamy's Caddy said:
Good post, but an important additional point to add about the referee was him deciding to end the game 2 minutes 50 in to added time , when the board had shown 3 minutes (a ridiculous decision in its own right given the amount of time wasting from Real) and just as Ederson was about to launch the ball in to their box. To deny that attacking opportunity is appalling refereeing at best and corruption at worst.

For anyone who downplays the significance of him ending the game early, ''it was only 10 seconds'' etc. Well, if the QPR game ended at 93.10 there's no Aguero moment...
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but there's a conspiracy going on against us. In about 30 years, long after I'm wearing a wooden overcoat, people on the inside will be revealing all to journalists for eye watering amounts of money.
 
ysmsa said:
Plucked up the courage to watch the highlights.

No way in a million years do we get that penalty, not a fuckin chance.

As bad as our game management was that decision fuckin stinks.

The 1 in the first leg was soft too.
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Said it at the time - no way a pen. It was not a trip, it was an unnatural dive.
 
HarrytheBlue said:
Said it at the time - no way a pen. It was not a trip, it was an unnatural dive.
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I only had the courage to watch the brief highlights once and I thought the City player got the ball before he got Benzema's front foot who then left his other leg trailing to make sure he fell over. How many times have we had penalties denied because the defender touched the ball first?
 
What happened to the ref in the retired ref (Poll) in the studio ? Has Dermot Gallagher been asked to comment yet ?
I stopped listening to TalkSHITE years ago, and certainly won't resume listening at a moment like this.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Stop the “reactive” defending we play.

We rely on the natural abilities of a small handful of players to save us. We play too high risk against the top, top teams, because Pep has one mindset.

Once we scored in the 73rd minute, Ancellotti went full on attack, replacing his entire first choice midfield with young kids who could fight and win midfield battles.

City???
GUT the midfield instead of ADDING TO IT!

Sterling?
Greslish?

REALLY??? Was THAT where we felt we need fresh legs???

And, when we brought them on, we put them both on the same side of the field, with Sterling ahead of Grealish, as our left midfielder!?!

We LITERALLY don’t know how to shutdown a game against quality opposition, because the “attack is the best form of defence” is Pep’s MO. The problem, of course, is that when our backs are to the wall, we look disorganized, at sixes and sevens, and no one is quite sure who is supposed to be doing what!

Thankfully, there are very few games where we have to defend, backs to the wall, but we ALL KNOW we are fragile under offensive pressure, and our keeper gives half of us the heeby geebies when the ball is at his feet under pressure OR in the air under pressure!

Pep needs a defensive coach that he will listen to! Attacking has never been our problem, but when we do attack in numbers, we leave the back door open 9 times out of 10, with good fortune and decent defenders saving our skin…or the fact that we score more than they do!

That luck ran out in the 90th minute at the Bernabéu.
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Could nt agree more.
 
Lavinda Past said:
Ahh... Last night's non-existent high press, is that the one you mean?

Pep gambled and lost. Should have started with Gundogan rather than KDB.
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I’m not interested in arguing the issue. I merely told you one reason KDB started…you know, other than he has been brilliant recently, of course!
 
Lavinda Past said:
Where did I say that about Palmer?

I said he would have made more of an impact than Raheem last night. He's one for the future, possibly 2 years time.

Foden and Grealish are a distance from being top class, give them more time to develop their games and you'll see very good players. Neither should be a regular starter in big games imo (including for England) they're overrated at the moment, but will improve.
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Glad you don’t pick the line ups or scout players
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Mundo Deportivo did the research and found out that only five minutes and 32 seconds were played out of the 15 minutes of second half extra time.

And the ref blew early on the MINIMUM 3 minutes he cherry-picked?!

Nothing to see here, move along…
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That feels about right......except he blew on around 2mins 52 secs of the minimum 3 minutes!
 
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