It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

[M12Blue]

Cucurella is a natural left back/wingback, he can also fill in as a centre back, great move by us if true.

Not if its true he's a racist c#nt

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Well yeah it depends on if Zinchenko wants more gametime or not, and with these fullback-rumors flairing up it could mean he's looking to depart for his own sake.

He turned down Wolves where he would have been a starter and played more for them, but he wouldn't have won anything with them. Zinchenko is happy enough to be a squad player whether we sign a specialist LB or not and I think we'll keep him as cover. I hope we keep him.

 

[DeBlueLou]

He turned down Wolves where he would have been a starter and played more for them, but he wouldn't have won anything with them. Zinchenko is happy enough to be a squad player whether we sign a specialist LB or not and I think we'll keep him as cover. I hope we keep him.

that was 2+ years ago tho? Surely with age he'd want more for his career after winning almost all titles? Cucurella links aren't coming out of nowhere, surely, and Zinchenko doesn't fit the quaility of out midfield.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

that was 2+ years ago tho? Surely with age he'd want more for his career after winning almost all titles? Cucurella links aren't coming out of nowhere, surely, and Zinchenko doesn't fit the quaility of out midfield.

He's getting full support from the club, players, manager and fans with what's going on in his own country

Can't see Zin wanting a move

 

[DeBlueLou]

He's getting full support from the club, players, manager and fans with what's going on in his own country

Can't see Zin wanting a move

Irrelevant? He'd get that anywhere?

The point is that he's pushing 25+ and sometime being a rotational player doesn't suit one anymore... He's won everything here now, surely he'd want to start and become a pivotal part of a team, like he's done with Ukraine?

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

that was 2+ years ago tho? Surely with age he'd want more for his career after winning almost all titles? Cucurella links aren't coming out of nowhere, surely, and Zinchenko doesn't fit the quaility of out midfield.

Yes i know. But leaving us for anyone else is a downward step. And if Zinchenko leaves because we sign Cucurella(or another LB) and he gets injured, what then?

We need cover for all positions and competent squad players happy to deputise aren't easy to find and keep happy playing second fiddle. Zinchenko is happy here and a very good squad player to call upon when needed.

 

[DeBlueLou]

Yes i know. But leaving us for anyone else is a downward step. And if Zinchenko leaves because we sign Cucurella(or another LB) and he gets injured, what then?

We need cover for all positions and competent squad players happy to deputise aren't easy to find and keep happy playing second fiddle. Zinchenko is happy here and a very good squad player to call upon when needed.

So we should have three leftbacks? no sense. We have NO idea if he's "happy" where he is...? Again, there fullback rumors aren't just coming from the fact that Mendy is in jail.

It's also no shock that players would want to progress their own career and become important elsewhere.

 

[better dead than red]

wow No wonder he’s called Mr Whippy for a good reason beside football .Congrats

Is that his daughter? No? Old dirty bastard, good for him

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Posted this in the other thread. I was reminded of this now, and it doesn’t seem an acceptable signing. Last summer many here also didn’t agree to the signing of Griezmann over a racist incident (frankly less significant than this one)

Struggling to find any more info or a video of the incident.

He can fuck right off if it's true.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

So we should have three leftbacks? no sense. We have NO idea if he's "happy" where he is...? Again, there fullback rumors aren't just coming from the fact that Mendy is in jail.

It's also no shock that players would want to progress their own career and become important elsewhere.

Cancello isn't a LB. Mendy will hopefully never play for us again.

Tell you what, why don't you ask Zinchenko if he's happy here?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Cancello isn't a LB.

A lot of people will disagree with this but it's precisely Cancelo at left back which broke apart the Dias/ Stones partnership from last season.

Plus, Cancelo on the left has been nowhere near as effective recently as it was earlier in the season.

 

[DeBlueLou]

Cancello isn't a LB. Mendy will hopefully never play for us again.

Tell you what, why don't you ask Zinchenko if he's happy here?

Cancelo is our permanent start leftback and it's just time too accept that... At least until Walker leaves. So yes, he is Mendys replacement per definition.

I mean you cannot go around saying he's happy here with zero knowledge of it... for all we know he's also looking for a more important role elsewhere, just waiting to ask for a move when the season is up. Im basing my evidence on the actual left-back links that have been coming up...

I think, for both player and clubs sake, we should perhaps look to move him on if a player like Cucurella is up for grabs.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I mean you cannot go around saying he's happy here with zero knowledge of it

You're doing exactly the same thing when you say this:

I think, for both player and clubs sake, we should perhaps look to move him on

There's far more information to suggest that he's happy here than there is to suggest keeping him will be problematic for either the player or the club.

It's just guesswork.

 

[DeBlueLou]

You're doing exactly the same thing when you say this:



There's far more information to suggest that he's happy here than there is to suggest keeping him will be problematic for either the player or the club.

It's just guesswork.

Difference was, I was saying "perhaps" as it means "im guessing", haha!

Just like with Jesus, players could be happy as rotation players for years but when the age goes up, so does the want for something more important. LOGICAL GUESSING. And again, the links too a leftback is one of those evidences im going on.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

A lot of people will disagree with this but it's precisely Cancelo at left back which broke apart the Dias/ Stones partnership from last season.

Plus, Cancelo on the left has been nowhere near as effective recently as it was earlier in the season.

Cancelo was signed as a RB backup for Walker. I think Laporte broke Dias/Stones partnership through threatening to leave if he wasn't an automatic starter. I doubt Pep told him he would be but Laporte has played a lot more than he probably would have done since spitting his dummy out.

I agree about him not being as effective as earlier in the season but i think Zinchenko is a better option as LB. Cancelo plays better as a RB i think.

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

A lot of people will disagree with this but it's precisely Cancelo at left back which broke apart the Dias/ Stones partnership from last season.

Plus, Cancelo on the left has been nowhere near as effective recently as it was earlier in the season.

Causes issues further forward too. As he cuts inside, Grealish has to hug the touchline.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

LOGICAL GUESSING

It's called deduction.

And it's pretty easy to deduce that Zinchenko would never be an issue for the club. He's a model professional, has loved being here and so far hasn't had an issue with playing second fiddle to others in the squad.

You can call it "logical guessing" as much as you want but your prediction essentially boils down to you guessing that he'll want to leave because we've been linked with a player who plays the same position.

You can just say you'd prefer to move him on, rather than pretending you're using logic to predict why a player will have a sudden total change of mindset.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Cancelo is our permanent start leftback and it's just time too accept that... At least until Walker leaves. So yes, he is Mendys replacement per definition.

I mean you cannot go around saying he's happy here with zero knowledge of it... for all we know he's also looking for a more important role elsewhere, just waiting to ask for a move when the season is up. Im basing my evidence on the actual left-back links that have been coming up...

I think, for both player and clubs sake, we should perhaps look to move him on if a player like Cucurella is up for grabs.

I don't think you've been a blue 5 minutes judging by what you're saying pal.

Have you seen Zinchenko being interviewed, on the training pitch or at a game? He Exudes happiness and plays with his heart in his sleeve, it's there for all to see.

 

[DeBlueLou]

I don't think you've been a blue 5 minutes judging by what you're saying pal.

Have you seen Zinchenko being interviewed, on the training pitch or at a game? He Exudes happiness and plays with his heart in his sleeve, it's there for all to see.

So, just because my views and opinions doesn't totally align with yours, ive not been a city fan for "more than 5 min". That's fair.

 

[DeBlueLou]

It's called deduction.

And it's pretty easy to deduce that Zinchenko would never be an issue for the club. He's a model professional, has loved being here and so far hasn't had an issue with playing second fiddle to others in the squad.

You can call it "logical guessing" as much as you want but your prediction essentially boils down to you guessing that he'll want to leave because we've been linked with a player who plays the same position.

You can just say you'd prefer to move him on, rather than pretending you're using logic to predict why a player will have a sudden total change of mindset.

I've been fairly straight forward that i prefer Cucurell tho? Im not pretending to do anything and have been pretty clear on that i'm deduction this by me guessing, logicially. No idea why people are so defensive in here, as it is a formum based on opinions, no?